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Why can't U2 do their fan club tix like Pearl Jam? Pearl Jam announces all the dates, and then it's a lottery system. You put in for the shows you want in priority order, there's about a week for the request period and then you know prior to the public on sale if you got the show(s). Day of the show you have to pick up the tix at the will call. The location is determined on seniority in theor fan club. You can still sell them if need be or trade them. Also, all their tix are always about $80. U2 should be ashamed of themselves for the price of these lower bowl tix. How much money is enough?

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Why can't U2 do their fan club tix like Pearl Jam? Pearl Jam announces all the dates, and then it's a lottery system. You put in for the shows you want in priority order, there's about a week for the request period and then you know prior to the public on sale if you got the show(s). Day of the show you have to pick up the tix at the will call. The location is determined on seniority in theor fan club. You can still sell them if need be or trade them. Also, all their tix are always about $80. U2 should be ashamed of themselves for the price of these lower bowl tix. How much money is enough?

 

 

I know that people are pissed off, but you have to realize that U2 is one of the most popular bands in the world. They, the Rolling Stones and maybe one or two other acts can charge whatever they want because of the broad appeal they have around the world. GA tickets and upper bowl tickets are reasonably priced, frankly they could charge more for those as well and people would pay. 

 

We live in a world where the prices for almost everything is going up, expecting a concert from one of the biggest bands in the world to not go up is just unrealistic. In a world where album sales are stagnant, bands now need to make their money in concert tours. Also, I wouldn't expect altruistic socialism from a semi-conservative Catholic band whereas Eddie Vedder is more liberal than most, I mean he supported Ralph Nader and the Green Party. U2 is a capitalist business and they want to make money. Anyways, just saying that politics and world view enters into it a bit. 

 

Anyways, I still agree it sucks, but I can see why they're doing it.

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Both you guys have valid points...After payin more than double face for a floor seat to PJ in Hartford a year ago, I had wished I belonged to their fan club.  There is absolutly no doubt U2's fan club ticket experience could be a lot better...  To parallel vancity, its all bout the bizness though...U2's a machine...I wish it was still 1983, but that aspect of beeing a fan of  this band ended with the Joshua Tree, you could make a case it really hasn't been the same since the WAR tour.....These guys are my band, but like anything, its all a bit different these days..

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I remember when I was much, much younger

Everything had a ceiling price.

 

When I could first  afford to buy an LP (vinyl) it was around £2.49

No one thought it would go beyond the £3.00 mark

 

One of my earlier U2 tickets costs £3.00 and that was a lot of money back then

Now I think nothing of spending £80.00 on a ticket. Not that I can afford it but because I want to

I don't have many vices apart from gambling, drinking, women and the rest I squander

Music is my love so I buy my tickets and look forward to an evening of escapism where I can lose myself in whatever band I am seeing

That to me is priceless and worth every penny

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Careful what you wish for: I've been a longtime member of both fanclubs. For the that 3 Pearl Jam tours I have ended up with exactly ZERO tickets for their shows since they implemented the lottery system. With U2.com I have managed to get tickets for every single tour.

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And, it's not an insignificant thing, their fanclub "gifts" (a badge, some stickers, and a code for a digital download of any bootleg - most of which are easily available with a bit of effort online) are atrocious compared to U2.com .

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Only if I don't have to endure a 3 hour sing-a-long like my last Pearl Jam experience.

 

Never, never again.

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Roger Waters did it this way for the Wall tour. Lottery, pick up tix at will call. Could a scalper still game the system? Probably but it is very unlikely they would go through all that trouble and then not have them in had until hours before the show starts.

I took family and guest to five different Wall shows and it all went off like clockwork and was absolutely and completely "fair" to longtime fanclub members.

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I remember when I was much, much younger

Everything had a ceiling price.

 

When I could first  afford to buy an LP (vinyl) it was around £2.49

No one thought it would go beyond the £3.00 mark

 

One of my earlier U2 tickets costs £3.00 and that was a lot of money back then

Now I think nothing of spending £80.00 on a ticket. Not that I can afford it but because I want to

I don't have many vices apart from gambling, drinking, women and the rest I squander

Music is my love so I buy my tickets and look forward to an evening of escapism where I can lose myself in whatever band I am seeing

That to me is priceless and worth every penny

"I don't have many vices apart from gambling, drinking, women and the rest I squander"  Lol

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Roger Waters did it this way for the Wall tour. Lottery, pick up tix at will call. Could a scalper still game the system? Probably but it is very unlikely they would go through all that trouble and then not have them in had until hours before the show starts.

I took family and guest to five different Wall shows and it all went off like clockwork and was absolutely and completely "fair" to longtime fanclub members.

I cought three shows myself, pretty incredible.  I'd see that show every few months for the rest of my life if it were available.

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Only if I don't have to endure a 3 hour sing-a-long like my last Pearl Jam experience.

Never, never again.

Yeah how dare Pearl Jam do a 3 hour plus show every night and play 35-40 different songs every night and charge $78 for every seat in the house!!

 

As opposed to 2 hours and the same 22 songs every night except for the occasional one song switch.

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There is an argument on both sides really. But to be honest every ticket system is flawed one way or the other. and the argument is always the same if you get tickets its the best system ever and if you don't its all completely unfair.

 

Its just supply and demand with regards to ticket prices...if one person doesn't pay it another will...one thing is for certain, like your taxes the price will only ever go up.

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They have added plenty of shows and tickets became easier to get. Heck, these new shows arent even close to sold out. I cant imagine why people could not get tickets. Im shocked with the lack of demand for these shows. This tour is nothing like it was the last arena tour.

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Certainly not to get into a PJ vs. U2 fight as I love both bands, but if you have ever been to a PJ show and been to a U2 show it should be pretty obvious what the difference is in cost for the tickets.

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Certainly not to get into a PJ vs. U2 fight as I love both bands, but if you have ever been to a PJ show and been to a U2 show it should be pretty obvious what the difference is in cost for the tickets.

 

Indeed: video screens, fancy stages, and professionally produced videos.

 

Pretty hard to find fault with a PJ show at their price point, unless one is not a fan of their music. See them two shows in a row and you'll probably be hearing 40 different songs over the nights.

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PJ aren't the only band that do that but bands like that have a following and they know the have a following that are happy to hear anything they play and in the most basic of shows.

 

U2 attract people every time they tour...I would say its likely 75%+ of the audience on any given night is going for the first time or maybe the second. They need to play With or Without you every night for those people....its a bit like the Stones not playing Satisfaction or Macca not playing Hey Jude.

 

I think the term these days is..."Legend Act"

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Certainly not to get into a PJ vs. U2 fight as I love both bands, but if you have ever been to a PJ show and been to a U2 show it should be pretty obvious what the difference is in cost for the tickets.

 

Indeed: video screens, fancy stages, and professionally produced videos.

 

Pretty hard to find fault with a PJ show at their price point, unless one is not a fan of their music. See them two shows in a row and you'll probably be hearing 40 different songs over the nights.

 

 

I saw Pearl Jam for two consecutive shows during 2013 (Phoenix, then San Diego). They played 70 songs total, and only 12 were the same.

 

Though Pearl Jam prices their tickets at a much lower rate than they could probably get away with, lots of people end up spending the difference in souvenirs. Each show gets a unique poster design (sometimes 2), and a unique T-shirt design. Each of those cost about $35 a piece. Plus they'll sell a soundboard recording later on ($10 for MP3 or $18 for CD).

 

I don't fault U2 at all for their touring style. I know that they spend a lot putting on the show production, especially the stadium tours.

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They have added plenty of shows and tickets became easier to get. Heck, these new shows arent even close to sold out. I cant imagine why people could not get tickets. Im shocked with the lack of demand for these shows. This tour is nothing like it was the last arena tour.

 

I gather you weren't trying to get GA's for MSG.  I was repeatedly offered seats in other sections but I refuse to spend $300+ for a ticket to a U2 show, especially since I am attending multiple gigs. 

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I saw Pearl Jam for two consecutive shows during 2013 (Phoenix, then San Diego). They played 70 songs total, and only 12 were the same.

 

Though Pearl Jam prices their tickets at a much lower rate than they could probably get away with, lots of people end up spending the difference in souvenirs. Each show gets a unique poster design (sometimes 2), and a unique T-shirt design. Each of those cost about $35 a piece. Plus they'll sell a soundboard recording later on ($10 for MP3 or $18 for CD).

 

I don't fault U2 at all for their touring style. I know that they spend a lot putting on the show production, especially the stadium tours.

 

 

This.  I made it to 8 Pearl Jam shows on this past tour - 6 on the east coast swing of the first leg in 2013, 1 in Europe this summer, and the midwest tour kickoff in Oct. We spent a huge amount of money on merch (posters / tees / boots etc.) that probably averaged out to $150 per show on top of the $170+/- we spent on a pair of tickets.  Still, that's equal to just one of U2's top priced tickets with no merch.

 

I've been to 50 U2 shows and have tix for 7 shows right now (couldn't get tix to MSG 5, yet) and if they add the rumored two additional shows, I'll get tix to those shows as well.  But, I refuse to pay $300+ for a ticket to a show that I'm quite certain I will have seen at least 3 times on the tour already.

 

I dislike the PJ lottery, before it was instituted, I was always able to get fanclub tickets through sheer determination to every show I wanted.  My lottery success has been poor, winning just 3 shows of the 16 or so that I've put in for.  But, I do like the fact that all GAs are fanclub only, and that fanclub members still have the option of getting reserved seats if that's what they prefer. That's not to say that there is no reselling of TenClub tickets - there most certainly is - but Pearl Jam will ban members who are caught reselling over face value, whereas U2 is in effect condoning the resale of their tickets through TM+. 

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Certainly not to get into a PJ vs. U2 fight as I love both bands, but if you have ever been to a PJ show and been to a U2 show it should be pretty obvious what the difference is in cost for the tickets.

 

Indeed: video screens, fancy stages, and professionally produced videos.

 

Pretty hard to find fault with a PJ show at their price point, unless one is not a fan of their music. See them two shows in a row and you'll probably be hearing 40 different songs over the nights.

 

 

I saw Pearl Jam for two consecutive shows during 2013 (Phoenix, then San Diego). They played 70 songs total, and only 12 were the same.

 

Though Pearl Jam prices their tickets at a much lower rate than they could probably get away with, lots of people end up spending the difference in souvenirs. Each show gets a unique poster design (sometimes 2), and a unique T-shirt design. Each of those cost about $35 a piece. Plus they'll sell a soundboard recording later on ($10 for MP3 or $18 for CD).

 

I don't fault U2 at all for their touring style. I know that they spend a lot putting on the show production, especially the stadium tours.

 

 

I will see U2 as often as I can/afford, so this is intended to be an attack on them (as much as it might seem).

 

Perhaps if U2 inc produced a decent show poster (not the crap they have done for the past couple tours) and tshirts that were even close to being as cool as PJ's they'd do better on the Merch end of things (and I suspect they already do very, very well.)

 

Don't get us started on the whole official "bootleg" issue. Most of us on these boards would probably buy a bootleg, but given the lack of setlist change from night-to-night I don't think they would be moving bootlegs the way Pearl Jam or Springsteen do.

 

And I don't believe for one second that the price of a concert ticket would become more affordable if they were to move merch as PJ does (Is there any evidence that U2 is not currently moving as much merch as PJ?)

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I agree on the merch! on the last tour it was cool to have shirts with the stadium on the back, but in general the merch was kind of meh.

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Only if I don't have to endure a 3 hour sing-a-long like my last Pearl Jam experience.

Never, never again.

Yeah how dare Pearl Jam do a 3 hour plus show every night and play 35-40 different songs every night and charge $78 for every seat in the house!!

 

As opposed to 2 hours and the same 22 songs every night except for the occasional one song switch.

 

You're missing my point. Pearl Jam wasn't the problem. It was their pain-in-the-ass fanbase that made the show unbearable.

 

I paid my money to see Eddie sing these songs, not to listen to thousands of drunken frat boys sing along ... badly... to "Yellow Ledbetter."

 

The audience noise was ridiculous. You could barely hear the band over the constant chatter, singing and fingers-in-mouth whistling.

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Only if I don't have to endure a 3 hour sing-a-long like my last Pearl Jam experience.

Never, never again.

Yeah how dare Pearl Jam do a 3 hour plus show every night and play 35-40 different songs every night and charge $78 for every seat in the house!!

 

As opposed to 2 hours and the same 22 songs every night except for the occasional one song switch.

You're missing my point. Pearl Jam wasn't the problem. It was their pain-in-the-ass fanbase that made the show unbearable.

 

I paid my money to see Eddie sing these songs, not to listen to thousands of drunken frat boys sing along ... badly... to "Yellow Ledbetter."

 

The audience noise was ridiculous. You could barely hear the band over the constant chatter, singing and fingers-in-mouth whistling.

But isn't a U2 show a 2 hr sing along?

 

At the PJ show you went to were you in the fanclub see seats or with the general public?

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