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God's Heart - Who speaks for God

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Majority for anything doesn't mean something is right. It's just our world getting further away from God, our creator. Tell me why you don't hear about the plight of those who have had abortions. The news doesn't cover that - there aren't any reports of how things are just great for them. 

The reason I started this thread was to basically ask one question: I was just wondering how U2, Bono, who reads the scriptures and believes can come to the conclusion that this is ok - along with several other issues, the band acts contrary to scripture, going with a post-modern society rather than the authority of scripture. That's it!

Once conceptions happens, the life has started, Contrary to what one doctor said in the Irish Times, that at the molecular level things haven't really begun...that's just crap - to say that it needs to be repealed, because otherwise is to say that the baby's rights are being considered as higher than the mother's rights" is not what pro-lifers are saying. Pro Lifers are saying that the baby has no rights at all. 

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Sorry I believe in evidence based science, not scriptures. 

Nearly all problems in our world are caused by twisting religious messages.

we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Ireland has spoken.

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I can respect what you believe and agree to disagree for sure.....

I do believe in evidence based science too - scripture supports all scientific findings - like life beginning at conception and continuing through all points of a pregnancy. It's man who twists them - there is something inside of man, that no matter if God himself told a person to his face, they'd still choose not to believe Him, b/c it means they'd have to face up to a whole lot of stuff.

If you don't believe the scriptures, of course they're not your base for any 'moral' decisions, how could it be ?

I agree religion has done a whole lot of bad throughout this earth's history..... but Jesus isn't like that. He is saddened when a church leader, or any Christian like me does anything opposite to his will. 

I was just asking how the band, who believes the scriptures and talks of the psalms often (Bono) reconciles their decision to support abortion.

Psalms like # 139 - read below if you wish - esp v 13-16 - where it says basically "You (God) made me (a person, not an it) knit me together in my mother's womb" 

 

Psalm 139 

139 O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know my sitting down and my rising up;
You understand my thought afar off.
You [a]comprehend my path and my lying down,
And are acquainted with all my ways.
For there is not a word on my tongue,
But behold, O Lord, You know it altogether.
You have [b]hedged me behind and before,
And laid Your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
It is high, I cannot attain it.

Where can I go from Your Spirit?
Or where can I flee from Your presence?
If I ascend into heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in [c]hell, behold, You are there.
If I take the wings of the morning,
And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
10 Even there Your hand shall lead me,
And Your right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness shall [d]fall on me,”
Even the night shall be light about me;
12 Indeed, the darkness [e]shall not hide from You,
But the night shines as the day;
The darkness and the light are both alike to You.

13 For You formed my inward parts;
You [f]covered me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will praise You, for [g]I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
15 My [h]frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them.

17 How precious also are Your thoughts to me, O God!
How great is the sum of them!
18 If I should count them, they would be more in number than the sand;
When I awake, I am still with You.

19 Oh, that You would slay the wicked, O God!
Depart from me, therefore, you [i]bloodthirsty men.
20 For they speak against You wickedly;
[j]Your enemies take Your name in vain.
21 Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?
22 I hate them with [k]perfect hatred;
I count them my enemies.

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
Try me, and know my anxieties;
24 And see if there is any wicked way in me,
And lead me in the way everlasting.

 

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On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 1:01 PM, doctornickriviera said:

Sorry I believe in evidence based science, not scriptures. 

Nearly all problems in our world are caused by twisting religious messages.

we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Ireland has spoken. 

Doctor Nick:

Here is a terrific video - a great defense for pro-life - you can you tube more from ben Shapiro - I love how the host - the other guy -  is honestly trying to understand, and that each of them are friendly, even more so how Ben is just defending the truth, not attacking - or making it his agenda to make the other guy change his mind - he offers logical reasoning and gives time for the listener to think on that - and to argue the reasoning - it is bewildering how some can follow that logic and come up pro choice - which at that point someone just says they're going to do what they want, even tho' they know down deep something is wrong with going pro choice - 

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