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  1. 7 points
    I think this gift is wonderful. I'm shocked they would release EI as a subscribers gift. I am very happy. DVD versus BluRay-I don't care. It'll be a good picture and it will have great sound. I still don't have IE on BluRay because somethng always eats up my money before I can get around to buying it. . If I focus on being unhappy with the font when the Sun rises with my name on it-I miss the silent brilliance of the moment. Perhaps they'll release EI for commerical release on bluray, it will be a North America show and many of us will have our hope to have a physical copy of both fulifilled. Props to U2. Fantastic gift.
  2. 7 points
    A DVD??? We are in 2020 guys! Have you heard about Blu-ray? UHD 4K Blu-ray? This is ridiculous!
  3. 6 points
    I understand, and can sympathize with this reasoning. The problem is that you didn't pay $50 for a DVD. You paid to be a member of this website/fanclub. The gift is only one part of a larger sum. I don't understand people saying I didn't pay for this gift when they purchased something with multiple components. U2 never says what any gift will or will not be until it is officially announced. This is what they've chosen to do this year. It is what it is. I can undertand being disappointed. I can understand someone consdering if they want to keep subscribing. I don't understand the constant barrage of attacks against the band, and this website, when things aren't as one would wish. It's the chance we take when we subscribe. One can join this website for free, still be a part of the live threads and so much more. That costs nothng yet it's expensive, and a lot of work, to maintain a website. . . This gift is one day old and people are already deciding that they are going to have to buy the BluRay. No you don't. You'll have the DVD. You want the BluRay. There's a huge difference. It's also presuming this will be commercially released on BluRay. From what I read, it's exclusive. There's been no indication of it being anything else. It's EI, from Europe, and it's the Berlin show. I've read, numerous times, from many different sources, that this is one of the best U2 shows ever. I don't understand why people can't enjoy it for what it is. Thi is just how I see it.. We all possess the right to express our vews in these forums and threads.. It's part of our subscription. Your opinion has just as much validity as mine. We wouldn't be a community if it did not.
  4. 6 points
    Christ above you can't please everyone can you! I for one am very happy and appreciative with this gift!
  5. 5 points
    Yes - thank both of you for fleshing out the reasons why others and I complained right out of the gate. Your observations are what we were getting at. It would be very useful to know what the site means exactly by the word "limited" in the description of this gift. It is "limited" in the sense of "special and truly unique" (and if so, how is it special/unique specifically), or is it "limited" meaning time-limited, i.e., it is the 2020 gift and not beyond that? Will this concert be getting a wider release? That would be good to know too. IMHO, this show will certainly be released commercially - there is no way (again, IMHO) that this DVD will be the only way this show will become available. If this were the only place to get the show, multiple formats would have to be offered. Further questions: if a worst-case scenario plays out (i.e., the U2.com edition is identical to the general release regular edition), would we at least get it in our mailboxes before it goes on sale to the general public? If it ends up being identical to the general release, and the general release goes on-sale first before any of us receive the U2.com edition in our mailboxes, any complaints posted here would be richly earned and deserved. Well, let's hope for the best. More information about this show, I think we can all agree, would be very nice to have as soon as possible. Also, there were a few comments above that were not completely well-founded, and I'd like to address those further here. I think everyone knows that it's not very fun to read people's complaints on message boards and forums. However, what really matters is whether any objection is valid. I've read a few complaints on the site over the years here that have made me laugh and/or roll my eyes; I've read other that were right on point and addressed a failing that was/is properly a failing. While it is no fun to read trivial complaints, it is also important not to conflate the rational objections with the irrational ones. There are some who conflate complaints about the shortcomings of the site and/or fanclub in general (and there are legitimate ones) as if they were complaints about the band. That's complete nonsense. The band and the website/fanclub are separate entities. Complaining about LiveNation/Island Records/Interscope Records/Universal is not the same as complaining about the band. Also, there are a lot of causes that are leading to the complaints that have developed over a long period of time - that also isn't being properly acknowledged sometimes. There are ways that the benefits of membership here have declined over time; unfortunately, this seems to have coincided with the time when Paul McGuinness departed the stage and LiveNation took over. The benefits of being a member here were chronicled by a few above - and those mentioned are benefits. However, for other acts' official webpages, most/almost all the benefits mentioned are completely free of charge; U2.com is one of the very few official band pages that still charges a fee every year. Many bands used to charge, but now no longer do. Yes, the ones that don't charge don't usually have a membership gift, but an overwhelming majority of sites that don't charge do offer pre-sale ticket access. I would hazard a guess that the two main reasons most of us (including myself) continue to renew here are: pre-sale ticket access during touring years and the annual gift. Some might ask, "How about the forum as a reason?" Well, that may be in your personal top two (it would be co-number 2 for me) - however, as I already mentioned, most official band forums are completely free to sign up for and use - even a section of this site is free. I mention this because other bands manage a fully-functioning fan forum without charging; thus, site-upkeep as one of the reasons to charge doesn't really hold water - how do the other sites do it, if membership fees are truly necessary? (I'll stop here and leave other issues for later.) Also, I would argue that our devotion to the band is what feeds our complaints sometimes - we want a site that kicks ass like our band does. When it falls short, we have every right to say so - hell, we have literally paid for the right. Being paid members here shouldn't require us to be submissively obsequious when we have a legitimate issue. Well, I don't really wish to go on here. I have already resubscribed - gladly, proudly. In broad brushstrokes, as I said earlier, I love this year's gift - however, it would just be nice to have answers to the questions we all raised above. Thanks again to the mods who read all these complaints, legitimate and otherwise. Peace. ✌️
  6. 5 points
    How good a gift this is or isn’t will really depend on if it gets a physical release to the general public or not. To renew it cost me around £30. If the show is only going to be released for subscribers or at the very least the physical format is released only for subscribers then I think it’s a good gift. However if they decide to release it publicly on Blu Ray at a cost of usually around £15 then someone who isn’t a subscriber will be getting a better format of the show for half the amount I paid. So as I said it all depends on how exclusive this is to us.
  7. 5 points
    2020 Subscriber Gift Announcement here: https://www.u2.com/news/title/experience--innocence--live-in-berlin
  8. 5 points
    2020 U2.com Annual Subscription: U2 eXPERIENCE + iNNOCENCE – LIVE IN BERLIN Limited edition live DVD & photographic book capturing 2018’s e+i Tour Complete 2 hour 22 minute show, never previously released. Really? WOW!! *_*
  9. 4 points
    The Screen was 4K The show was filmed in 4K Then broadcasted partially in 4K Then released in 480p to the fan club only? This downgrade is an insult to the creative team that filmed and produced the show. I’m sorry, but I struggle to believe all this Producing this show was way more expensive, and only Live Nation getting the subscribers’s money? I’m pretty sure they’ll have to release a complete 4K show somehow. I’ll be waiting for that. If U2.com changes their minds about this, I’m happy to resubscribe, but with no pre-sales in the near future, I’m not gonna waste my money this year. I’ll get it on eBay or something.
  10. 4 points
    Just adding my 2 cents that DVD is not really acceptable in 2020. U2 uses the most cutting edge tech around for their video screens during their shows - the JT screen is almost 8K for crying out loud! - but somehow we’re supposed to be happy with 480p for our home video release. Pretty disappointing.
  11. 4 points
    I'm happy enough with this gift, but then again I loved the vinyl gifts too so I might just be behind the times. The objections that other fans have for the DVD are quite reasonable and they have a solid case. I just hope that this show doesn't get released commercially because if so it devalues the specialness of this fanclub only item.
  12. 4 points
  13. 4 points
    How? They've given us vinyl, CD's, books, prints (whateveer the format), tshirts, remixes and more as gifts. What else can they do? In addition, they put out the No Line CD and gave us the 360 tour. We got SOI. They tried to give everyone/anyone a free download via Itunes and got trashed for being arrogant. We got the IE tour. It was completely innovative and redefined modern indoor rock concerts.. We got TJT30. Very shortly after that, we got SOE and the EI tour. They just finished TJT 2019 tour, during which they released a new single. We got a remix EP from that. All of it in a ten year perod. We pay for this website and beig in the fanclub and a discount coupon and a subscribers gift and presales and full acceess to their music/video catalogue and exclusive content and access to special events.. I do not understand why people are so upset and focused on one part of a much larger package.. It it's that awful-caviat emptor. Look at the ingreidients before you put the product into your cart. Don't purchase it a second time if it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. This gift was just announced. Everyone seems to want EI on disc yet the majorty of reactions to it being our gift are negative. I do not understand..
  14. 4 points
    I really hope they offer a digital download as well. I haven't had a DVD or BluRay (not that they offered it) hooked up in two years! 4K streaming is the standard now. This would be like if they had offered a cassette in 1999. Some people still had them but everyone had CDs by then. Come on, U2... step it up!
  15. 4 points
    I don't have blu ray. I think this is a fantastic gift. Best subscription bonus ever
  16. 3 points
    Announcing our 2020 subscription offer. The complete show on limited edition DVD. View the full article
  17. 3 points
    Huge Bruce fan here. He's a part of every stage of my teens and adult life. Tunnel of Love-Tougher Than the Rest is probably my favorite Bruce song. (that would need to change next time I had to choose) The Tunnel of Love tour was fantastic. He's put out a lot of good music since 2000. Magic is a lost gem, if you have not heard it. So is High Hopes and Wrecking Ball. (just fyi in case you may not have heard them) He stongly hinted there is a new Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band album coming out this year. He had already written it, when he said this. That was months ago. He also stated there was going to be a tour this year. I like corny jokes and this is true: I'd drive all night just to buy the tshirts in the pics you posted. I look forward to saying Bruce and E Street will be my next concert.
  18. 3 points
    The first five pictures above are the brochure and t-shirt from the display. The schedule is on the pages showing the events through September. Website: http://www.springsteenhishometown.com The next three pictures show the front of the brochure of the "Bruce Springsteen Archives & Center for American Music", the back of the same brochure with a "Stick Bruce" you can find scattered all around the "Springsteen: His Hometown" display. There are 10 of them. If you take a selfie of all 10 and then show the people at the counter, you can get one of three gifts - I chose this nice lithograph. You can visit the Bruce Archives at Monmouth University yourself (we didn't - we didn't have the time) - you just need to make an appointment in advance. Appropriate info at their website: http://www.monmouth.edu/bruce
  19. 3 points
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  21. 3 points
    Clicks into YouTube. See's countless videos of the 2018 shows filmed by people on their cellphones in 4K. Clicks into U2.com and they are offering the very same hi tech show in standard definition on a format from the 90s. Rubs eyes to see if it's all a joke. It's not.
  22. 3 points
    Nah....That's still bad...I wouldn't pay for Netflix Just To See U2... .. And I will take this OPPORTUNITY to say I am content with the Gift....... Come On , Acrobat !!!!!!!
  23. 3 points
    I'll be honest, my first reaction when the gift was announced was "that's pretty damn cool", but my second reaction was one of mild disappointment that it was DVD rather than Blu-Ray or a HD digital copy or something. I don't mean that to sound ungrateful or entitled, but I think a few of the other posts have summed things up quite well and initially it just seems like its a case of so near and yet so far again. @dmway post sums up the wider issues very well - there's a bit of a historic thing going on here and also where the current model sits alongside other similar fan sites. I suspect that most people are happy to pay for a subscription here due to the chance of priority tickets - something which other bands seem to now offer at no charge. Its still a cool gift though 😃
  24. 3 points
    That's pretty much what I'm thinking, too. If it isn't commercially available (or if the one in the shops is no better than the one we're getting), then it's a great gift and I'm very happy with it. If they subsequently release a deluxe edition and I end up paying for two copies of the same show, I'll be quite peeved.
  25. 3 points
    Just remembered the Paris 2015 gig was broadcast at Christmas 2015 before being released physically in the summer of 2016. It really does appear that the Berlin show will not go on general release - how could they possibly justify the gift otherwise? The DVD/Blu Ray really should be in the shops....an audio CD of the show would have made a great gift..Strange decision.
  26. 3 points
    Nice one 👍 Thanks U2 !
  27. 3 points
    Thanks U2 for offering E&I on DVD! I’m relieved that I don’t have to upgrade to some new system to view it!! Are DVD’s old? I guess so, but they’re not as old as I am! I’m so glad the 2020 subscription issues were resolved.
  28. 3 points
    Wow such rage..... I was hoping for a Betamax or VHS.* *hangs head in shame for having a dvd player i think it’s a good subscriber offer to be fair.
  29. 3 points
    Is there any news about this? My current membership also runs out within one month, so I would like to know what to expect when I resubscribe. And looking at the replies in this thread I'm certainly not the only one. I'd be disappointed if I would again get the Live Songs From i + e again, as great as that set is (it's playing at this very moment, oh the memories!) but miss out on the new gift. Also, some fansite are reporting on this issue that is ongoing. https://www.atu2.com/news/column-off-the-record-vol-20-784.html
  30. 3 points
    RIP Terry Jones. Life of Brian is still a cinematic and comedic gift.
  31. 3 points
    One way or the other some announcement is required so that those of us whose renewals are due on 31/1 could click on the button now. Or at least as many have suggested put an option to select the 2020 gift when announced up as one of the renewal options.
  32. 3 points
    Why is this so hard for them? This is not difficult stuff! Courtesy?
  33. 3 points
    😁🧛‍♂️🦇⚰️🌙😁
  34. 2 points
    My new next concert is Inahler on May 4 in Chicago. Very nice surprise. I'm going to see Bono's son's rock bnad in Chicago. I feel like I just stepped out of, or into, a Salvador Dali painting..
  35. 2 points
    Just got back from the gig. they were amazing. A really tight band and Eli definitely plays guitar better than his dad ever has and has huge stage presence and a cracking live voice. they are very reminiscent of early U2, the venue was packed and it was great to see people in their teens and twenties really enjoying a proper rock band. if you get a chance to see them go. You won’t be disappointed! All hail the second coming of Hewson!
  36. 2 points
    I guess I should be Spartacus too.
  37. 2 points
  38. 2 points
    My wife belongs to several fan pages of artists she values but she is constantly blown away at what we get annually. Personally, apposed to an annual gift , which i do value and appreciate, Id rather and LOVE if all subs names were entered into a draw for 2 to 10 of us being flown to a show , during touring years , with a brief , cordial apposed to sloppy (lol) meet and greet with red zone access.
  39. 2 points
    I have to say DVD in 2020 Of a show filmed in 4K is a real slap in a face... the same happened with last Coldplay video release - only dvd you guys may not realize it but 142minutes with possible LPCM, DD5.1 and DTS 5.1 will mean a lot of compression and quality of video will really be poor! Just check out Chicago DVD there are so many artifacts for the very same reason... I believe it (2005) was shot in HD and begs for HD release and now 2018 show in SD ... what a way to show to your fans we do not really care just give them something and grab the 40usd sad
  40. 2 points
    The reason I want it to be exclusive is so that I’m getting some sort of value for money. At £30 for a limited release it’s easier to stomach than if it then gets released for £15 in blu Ray commercially meaning I will have paid more for less quality. It’s principle as much as anything. Whilst blu Ray would be better I can accept dvd in the exclusive circumstances after all it was good enough for zoo tv, Popmart, elevation and vertigo tour to only be released as DVD’s and I enjoy all of them.
  41. 2 points
    One more flag for the Blu-ray! It makes absolutely no sense to make this available in DVD when we subscribers are actually interested in content. The only reason I can think of for somebody to be happy with whatever the format/quality as long as it is and exclusive release is to make a profit by reselling it, which certainly is not the spirit of membership. The video (and audio!) quality of a DVD release is definitely inferior to the one in Blu-ray or even streaming, and anyone who's been watching audiovisual media in the past 10 years can definitely notice that. As a subscriber, I'm here because of the exceptional content (and pre-sales ), so its quality is extremely important.
  42. 2 points
    I'm happy that this show is being released, but I think it's a tremendous step down to have to go from the TV broadcast version being in high definition to a standard definition disc - especially when every U2 live video release since 2009 has had a Blu-ray high definition option. I understand and respect that not every subscriber has Blu-ray, but it's been industry standard for some time to include both a Blu-ray disc and DVD in the same package - it only bumps up the manufacturing cost about 50 cents to do so. U2.com has had no problem with sending out gifts in formats that not all subscribers have; I doubt everyone has a record player, but they send out vinyl. This is a baffling decision. Unless, of course, the band is separately planning on releasing a Blu-ray version for sale to the general public. Which would be frustrating in its own right, because then I'd essentially have to pay for it twice.
  43. 2 points
    I hope we get the option of downloading the audio files in high quality.
  44. 2 points
    I'm gonna go one further than the people mentioning Blu Ray and say...haven't the band heard of Netflix?
  45. 2 points
    Honestly? Seems a bit half-hearted to me. If the full show does gets a general public release someone will probably rip the whole thing and upload it to YouTube (already happened with the abbreviated broadcast tracks) so a bit impractical too.
  46. 2 points
    I am going to fork out for this gift. Just Incase there will be no Blu Ray release. And “Gloria”is on it, it’s as raw as “The Electric Co”The Charlie Chaplin intro, would look so amazing on 4K. Oh and “Lights Of Home” is just beautiful.
  47. 2 points
    Totally agree with you The 75 minute tv show on sky in SD does do it justice. DVD is dead we need Blu Ray, just like the live in Paris Blu Ray. I’m extremely disappointed, I wish it was available for Blu Ray or 4K release. It’s 2020 they stopped making DVD players,
  48. 2 points
    Yes, I have to concur - we should at a minimum have a BluRay option (I would have chosen that at once). Now, I am quite happy (thrilled, in fact) with this gift in general; however, @handsomebob is right. In 2020, people mostly have BluRay players - today is not 15-20 years ago. Well, at least we finally have the announcement.
  49. 2 points
  50. 2 points
    10 years ago, I hated Rush. I thought the lyrics to “Fly By Night” were cheesy, I thought Geddy was a girl and was not 1 iota more fond of him when I found out he was a guy (I called him “Geddy Spaghetti”), and I couldn’t stand their 8-minute songs. But I had to a lot of Rush songs often because my dad liked them and my brother loved them. I started to change my mind about Rush when I heard the song “Roll the Bones.” It was so catchy that I couldn’t resist it despite still disliking Geddy’s voice. Over time, I found more songs that I liked, and I eventually even learned to like Geddy’s voice (I have to agree with @dmway that his voice improved when it mellowed and deepened just a touch in the 80s). Now I have a lot of fun singing along with Geddy to my favorite Rush songs, and Neil is one of my favorite songwriters. His sophisticated lyrics were one of the biggest reasons I changed my mind about Rush (I still don’t love “Fly By Night,” but it’s better than I originally gave it credit for). The news of Neil’s death was devastating. I sadly never got to see Rush and realized that I probably never would, but it was still good to know that Neil Peart was living happily and peacefully in retirement for at least some time before his final illness. Thanks for your music and inspiration, Neil.
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