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  1. Just in case Mr. Oseary is looking for info on GA concerns, I'm reposting my thread from the Tulsa thread. Just home from Tulsa and scanning the comments about the GA Line and the show, so I'll throw in my 2 cents worth. For perspective, I've done GA for at least some shows for every tour starting with Elevation, with the exception of JT. I was part of the "un-numbered". The line leaders refused to do anymore numbering after the line moved from across the street to BOK. I've never encountered this before, early morning, day of the show I've always been able to get a number when I showed up in the morning. I guess that they just couldn't be bothered - follow their rules or be screwed. Everyone that showed up at 5 was renumbered and the last number given out was about #199 - apparently, quite a few of us didn't show up at 5. So, at 6:30 AM, I was about 5 people behind the last "officially numbered person - # 199. Not too bad. We were supposed to self-police, and stay there except for short bathroom breaks and food, but of course, lots of people left for long periods of time, so there were large gaps in the line. By the time the BOK staff made us put chairs away and tightened up the line around 5, it appeared that there were many more than 200 people in front of me - I saw some people with sharpies - I think some people made up their own numbers. About 10 people behind us in the line - they got there around 8AM, there was a couple that we were concerned about. The woman was in a wheelchair and her companion kept attending to her - we wondered why they would do GA. Well, we found out later, when a man and his young son suddenly appeared in line that the man had paid this homeless couple to stay in line for him all day - probably about 8 hours. Really awful what some people will do for GA. By the time the doors opened, I had resigned myself to not getting a rail position - 12 hours wasted. We did end up with one of the last rail positions - on the catwalk, which is a great location - you can see something of both stages and the band often stops in front of you. But then we found out the couple next to us showed up at 5:30 pm, went in another entrance when the doors opened! BOK Center doesn't win any kudos from me for GA line management. So I see Guy Oseary walking by and I called out to him. He did stop to talk and I asked him if U2 would consider taking over the GA line. He seemed surprised that it was an issue - obviously, he doesn't read these boards or get any feedback - so I'm sure I'm wasting my time with this post. I mentioned some concerns and gave examples of how U2 did Vertigo with a lottery and suggested something like the Bruce Springsteen method. He said that he'd look into it. I could tell that he didn't consider it to be a big issue, but then again - it's U2's opening night and he had plenty of other things on his mind. I appreciate that he did take the time to stop. My beef is - as so many others have expressed - is that the current system favors fans who have plenty of time to kill - either they don't work and/or can afford to travel and stay in town for several days before a show. They set the rules and it differs for each venue. To be fair, I did find the "rules" on Facebook, but they weren't posted on the main U2 fan sites. The sign in book started on Friday - 5 days before the show! The less obsessive fan thinks that the info provided by the venue is the rule, but the venues almost always cave. I'd just love a system that gives everyone a fair shot at the position that they want. Or at least for the fan run lines to have consistent rules from venue to venue. I've got 2 more shows to do - one in Red Zone and another GA. I've had my rail experience and next time will hang back so that I can see the screen.
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    Tulsa Live Thread #U2eiTour

    Just home from Tulsa and scanning the comments about the GA Line and the show, so I'll throw in my 2 cents worth. For perspective, I've done GA for at least some shows for every tour starting with Elevation, with the exception of JT. You can't see me, but I'm sitting on the sidewalk in the photo that Max Tuskino posted on page 3 of this discussion. I was part of the un-numbered. I did get a number on Tuesday evening when I arrived - # 216, but just couldn't bring myself to get up for the 5AM lineup. We showed up at 6:30 AM and the line leaders refused to do anymore numbering. I've never encountered this before, early morning, day of the show. I guess that they just couldn't be bothered - follow their rules or be screwed. Everyone that showed up at 5 was renumbered and the last number given out was about #199 - apparently, quite a few of us didn't show up at 5. I was about 5 people behind the last "officially numbered person - # 199. Not too bad. We were supposed to self-police, and stay there except for short bathroom breaks and food, but of course, lots of people left for long periods of time, so there were large gaps in the line. By the time the BOK staff made us put chairs away and tightened up the line around 5, it appeared that there were many more than 200 people in front of me - I saw some people with sharpies - I think some people made up their own numbers. About 10 people behind us, there was a couple that we were concerned about. The woman was in a wheelchair and her companion kept attending to her - we wondered why they would do GA. Well, we found out later, when a man and his young son suddenly appeared in line that the man had paid this homeless couple to stay in line for him all day - probably about 8 hours. Really awful what some people will do for GA. By the time the doors opened, I had resigned myself to not getting a rail position - 12 hours wasted. We did end up with one of the last rail positions - on the catwalk, which is a great location - you can see something of both stages and the band often stops in front of you. But then we found out the couple next to us showed up at 5:30 pm, went in another entrance when the doors opened! BOK Center doesn't win any kudos from me for GA line management. So I see Guy Oseary walking by and I called out to him. He did stop to talk and I asked him if U2 would consider taking over the GA line. He seemed surprised that it was an issue - obviously, he doesn't read these boards or get any feedback - so I'm sure I'm wasting my time with this post. I mentioned some concerns and gave examples of how U2 did Vertigo with a lottery and suggested something like the Bruce Springsteen method. He said that he'd look into it. I could tell that he didn't consider it to be a big issue, but then again - it's U2's opening night and he had plenty of other things on his mind. I appreciate that he did take the time to stop. My beef is - as so many others have expressed - is that the current system favors fans who have plenty of time to kill - either they don't work and/or can afford to travel and stay in town for several days before a show. They set the rules and it differs for each venue. To be fair, I did find the "rules" on Facebook, but they weren't posted on the main U2 fan sites. The sign in book started on Friday - 5 days before the show! The less obsessive fan thinks that the info provided by the venue is the rule, but the venues almost always cave. I'd just love a system that gives everyone a fair shot at the position that they want. Or at least for the fan run lines to have consistent rules from venue to venue. As to the show - it was amazing. The band and crowd had great energy. I loved everything about it except for two songs. During Blackout and UTEOTW the band was obscured by the screen. UTEOTW is one of my favorite songs to see live and I love the interplay between Bono and The Edge. I come to see the band - not watch a screen. Except for "Acrobat", I wasn't terribly excited by the rehearsed songs, but it flowed really well and U2 always seems to bring new meaning to some of the warhorses like Pride and SBS.
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    Tulsa Live Thread #U2eiTour

    They came on at 8:30
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    Tulsa Live Thread #U2eiTour

    If only U2 management would take control of the line! I'm sure the fans running the GA list will sweet talk BOK center staff to use their list. It's happened before and will continue to happen unless U2 does something to change it. The vast majority of us can't afford to fly into Tulsa several days before the show and even those living in Tulsa can't check in twice a day. I know that there is no bad place in this stage design, but nothing's as exciting as a rail position - anywhere along the rail! Just wish there was a fairer system so that all of us have a chance.
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    GA line

    Apparently the GA madness has started with the line starting in Tulsa already. How I wish U2 would take control of this and use a system that was fair to all fans.
  6. Back to being serious - yes, PLEASE U2 - take some control of the GA line. Surely, you must want to see some new faces on the rail! As many have suggested before - try something like the Springsteen model.
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    Songs youd love to hear on this tour

    I Thew A Brick,, Two Hearts, Last Night on Earth
  8. One, Pride, NYD, SBS, WOWY
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    GA line

    I'm still hoping that U2 management will take charge. Would love a Springsteen like lottery.
  10. I'd love for U2 to take over the line management and have something like a Bruce Springsteen like lottery. It would be nice to have a chance for a rail spot without waiting in line all day.
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    Backfire???

    Same for Washington, DC. Scores of tickets still available. I was hoping for a 2nd show - may not happen now. Who wants to pay $ 200-$ 300 for upper level tickets? Diehard fans want to be closer. Casual fans want cheaper.
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    How About A Simple Show With Lower Prices?

    I agree. I want to see a rock concert, not a choreographed musical with fancy video effects.
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    RZ1 vs RZ2

    Since the set up looks the same for this tour as I&E, you won't be able to change sides. But, there should be someone there managing the wristbands and line to get in - I can' remember her name but for I&E, she was great! Ask her if you can change. We had RZ1 for two back to back nights. Wanted to see from the other side of the stage. She said she'd see what she could do - came through with wristbands for RZ 2 after we were let in.
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    Ticketmaster Discount Codes-Law suit

    I forgot about them on Tuesday, but tried today - no place to enter a voucher number (using desktop). Room for a gift card, but you needed a PIN for that. I've used a few codes in the past, but generally a rip off - never have been able to get any of the free tickets.
  15. Code arrived just after 7 this morning. No GAs for DC available - still searching and still none. So, went for RZ. The RZ for DC are pickup only at Will Call. Surprised by this as the GA I got for Tulsa for the fan presale are hardcopy and being mailed. Just checked again for DC - no RZ available now at 10:34 and now they are again at 10:35. Be patient and keep trying if what you want doesn't come up right away - easy to say, very hard to do!