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  1. Sorry Max. Was wondering if it was allowed, when I posted it. But as it was a fan recording I thought it'd be ok. But no worries, won't post links again. Is a great fan recording though 😁
  2. It certainly was an amazing crowd, & a great performance by the band too. Yeah, U2 records everything. I wish they'd do simple video edits of their shows, & release them for people that attended the show, or on U2.com. [MOD EDIT: No problem at all by discussing and commenting about fan recordings, but please do not post links to these. Thanks]
  3. Nice. Great photo! One good thing about photos. Yeah, you lose a bit in the moment (or a lot of you're not careful), but then can relive the experience months later. I filmed the majority of one show (Sydney 2, my worst spot). But with my camera attached to the rail, so I could jump around like a lunatic. Haven't had a chance to look at any of the footage, as I've been overseas since the shows. When I return in March it'll be one of the things I'm really looking forward to.
  4. Sorry, you've got it wrong geowickey. Aussies & Kiwis haven't been complaining that fans are arriving early, & waiting in line. They're complaining that fans are arriving early, & NOT waiting in line. They're arriving days early, getting on a list, returning sometime much later, to get their name checked off. Rinse & repeat. NO WAITING. We've never had problems on any other tour. Why? Because people were prepared to wait in line! That's the way it's always worked here, a fair orderly queue. You arrive when you are prepared to wait, & you waited. It's the only fair system. That's what happened in Brisbane this tour. People arrived, waited. Some even camped out, including myself. Nobody complained! The complaints only start when an unfair check-in system is used. It screws over locals, & anyone who can't arrive days before a show. Yes, second row is fine for most people. But not everyone. This is why I'm not fine with second row. Anyway, we'll see what happens in a few more years, if we're lucky enough to be blessed with another tour.
  5. Yeah, I heard it was crossed off the setlist, due to the late start. Same happened in Adelaide, & I believe one of the Singapore shows. Pity that's the song gets dropped, as it's such a highlight.
  6. Wow, you're right, what a crowd! It helps having a stadium sized stage, enveloped by an arena, the seats so much closer. The noise from the crowd was so great! Unlike the gigantic cricket/ALF grounds used in Australia, where the crowd was so far away. But in general, the Japanese crowd were into the show so much more! Looking up towards the seats, & seeing everybody standing for the majority of the show! Love is Bigger got a much, much better reception from the Japanese than the Brisbane crowd, that's for sure. Singing the oh, oh, oh, oh's, in full voice. Of course your experience is influenced by those around you. My girlfriend & I were by the top-of-the-tree, with a young Japanese women directly behind us. She was so into the show! Jumping, crying, screaming! It was such a great experience to see how the show effected her. We had our own private party on many occasions. Turning away from that beautiful screen & the band on the main stage, to sing, dance, embrace & jump like lunatics together. Such a wonderful experience.
  7. They're pulling the wool over your eyes jremyu2! There's nothing fair about the check-in system, they're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They're self-serving, gaining the best possible spot in the line, with the least work possible. Maybe a check-in system was necessary in the US. But this isn't the case in Australia. Yes, I believe numbering is important, to prevent queue jumping, & keeping entry orderly. But the check-in system is a different beast. It isn't necessary, unless camping isn't allowed nearby (this isn't the case in Australia). Brisbane allowed camping. A local started the line (using numbering), & virtually none of the check-in crew could be bothered to camp out. Only about 30 people camped out, a great mix of 40% locals, & 60% internationals. Anyone arriving in the very early hours of show day, around 4-5am, could get a number from 30-50. Compare that to the check-in system used in Melbourne & Sydney. Specifically designed to disadvantage locals. Melbourne, with a 1pm check-in, impossible for most working locals. Sydney, a line started around 10am, & well over a hundred before locals had even finished work! Those who couldn't participate in the check-in system arrived early on the day of the show to be greeted by a list with hundreds of names on it. Certainly not fair in my book. Thank god Japan was different. Unfortunately, I'd say a high proportion of the earlier entries (first 300) went to foreigners, as they were from the Red Hill presale (less Japanese were signed up before the tour announcement, as U2 hadn't toured there in 13 years). But the very front people (first 50), at least for show 2, were locals as they had their own presales. The exception was Melissa, one of the heads of the check-in crew, who was right at the front of the line for the Sydney shows (I'll just say her first name, as the mods may not like me throwing dispersions about). She came in very late, after the early numbers had been checked & ordered, but were still waiting to get in. Barging through the crowd, flashing her ticket, moving up to the front of the line. Supposedly number 5 in line, the only foreigner amongst dozens of Japanese. After the first show she'd have known that the tickets weren't scanned, the stubs were just torn off. Was she really the only foreigner, with number 5, amongst dozens of locals, or was the ticket doctored. I'll leave that for you to decide, but I know what my money's on, after hearing about her behaviour in Berlin & seeing her in action at Sydney.
  8. It's only gotten worse. The corrupt check-in system started this morning in Sydney, 3 days before the show. A local stooge was rolled out to start the line. "This line is for you Sydneysiders, look a local is running it". The fans visiting our fair city began to join soon after. Taking up the vast majority of the top of the list. It continued throughout the day, while locals were hard at work. More people joining, numbers climbing. By 5pm - as locals finished work & turned their attention to getting on this damned list - well past the century! Well & truely. 110 people on the list by 5pm! This list is for everyone, come join the party, locals. Bull crap!!
  9. U2's own security seem to be in on it, or at least turn a blind eye. Handshakes & slaps on the back at the beginning of the tour. Like long lost friends. Venue's policy is 'no fan managed lines' for days & days. Then, hey presto, there's a backflip to allow these same guys control of the front the line. Despicable! Nothing wrong with first come, first served. Works perfectly. The only reason this check-in system is implemented here is to get these guys the prime spots. Melbourne wasn't the first time, & it won't be the last. Thank God Brisbane line was run fairly, with good old camping.
  10. We need to do something, that's for sure! This is getting ridiculous, & ruining the GA experience for many, many people. This check-in crap serves absolutely no purpose in Australia. Other than getting a few self-entitled fans to the front of the line, with as little effort as possible.
  11. Yep, it's a shame. Not just for the new songs, arena shows are bloody brilliant! Arenas are so much more intimate. Not a bad seat in the house. The expensive seats represent decent value, unlike stadiums, where even the best seats are miles away. Those in the front of arena GA are just about within touching distance of the band, who perform on a much lower stage than a neck-pain inducing stadium stage. It's been a long time between drinks for us with arenas. Not since Lovetown (excluding the Burswood show). While the US has had many arena legs since then. 2 legs for Elevation, 2 legs for Vertigo, a leg each for IE & EI. Hopefully we see them perform an arena tour in Oz one more time.
  12. Thanks for a poorly run GA line Marvel. What a fiasco! For days you were adamant that you wouldn't be honouring the unfair fan-managed check-in system, telling people to arrive at 8am for wristbanding. Only to have a last minute change of heart. Meaning those people who actually abided by your started rules, arrived on time to find they were now behind hundreds & hundreds of other fans. NOT FAIR! This is on U2's OWN security. Who pander to a few self-entitled fans, helping them to implement their unfair, inequitable check-in system. Pressuring local venue security to change their own publically announced policies. This is not the first time this has happened, & it won't be the last. How far up U2's chain does this go? U2 talks about inclusiveness. This is anything but inclusive! It's a very bad look for U2, favouring a few international fans over hundreds of local fans, who have waited 9 years to see their heroes. U2's own security must be told to stop this behaviour.
  13. Sounds like the show starts & finishes earlier in Japan than other places. So maybe no time for an opener. I hope there is though, or even better, a longer U2 set 😂
  14. No idea, sorry. I was expecting to need the credit card I paid on, but maybe not. I have read that Japan had cracked down on scalpers, ahead of the Olympics there. No idea if it's effected ticket collection policies.
  15. I'm staying the Captain Cook from the 21st, so that's probably where I'll start.
  16. Not sure if you're replying to my set list or the OP. I think my set list has enough hits, but what it really lacks is the older stuff, that opened 2017. But yeah, you're right. No use getting hopes up, as it's most likely 2017 with a couple of changes.
  17. No worries, I've edited my post as I didn't have time to finish it earlier the day. Hope you are happy with your seats. Remember if you arrive at your seats & have a visual obstruction, which is not listed on your ticket, you may be able to request to change seats. This happened in Europe & the US, on i+e/e+i, where people were moved from their reasonably cheap obstructed seats (when the ticket didn't mention the obstruction) to some very, very good seats, at no extra charge. This is more likely in poorly selling shows, & not sure if they'd do this in India. But if I had seats, I'd be arriving early, & asking to move seats to a better location if the seats is purchased were obstructed.
  18. Normally I'd say no, second level seats are not better than first level seats. First level seats are closer, & importantly should have less obstructions from the delay (speaker) towers. As you can see in the below image, the lower level seats may have some obstruction from the trusses (steel frames) of the delay towers. While the higher level seats may be obstructed by the actual speaker stacks, which are wider than the trusses, & totally opaque. However, DY Patil, & the other cricket ground used this tour, are a bit different. The lower level (concourse) has very low sloping tiers, with the front row often right at ground level. So the second level is likely to still have views below the speaker stacks. Though of course it'll still be further away than the lower level. The low angle of the sloping tiers of the lower level concourse may create a couple of problems for people sitting in the lower level too. The front row could be down at ground level, so may have trouble seeing over the GA crowd. So I wouldn't sit in the first couple of rows of the lower level. Also that low angle slope may make it tough to see, if you have a particularly tall person seated in front of you? The other possible obstruction for the lower level is the sound/video booth(s). As you can see in the top image, in 2017 there was a single, centrally located sound/video booth, which was two storeys high. This could obstruct centrally located seats on the lower level. However, I believe the layout will be different this time around. Looking at the Ticketmaster seat map for Optus stadium, Perth, it looks like there will be TWO sound/video booths this time! They won't be centrally located, & I'm presuming these will only be single storey. So for the lower level I'd recommend being very central (bit this is expensive VIP for Mumbai), or reasonably far around the sides. So you're not obstructed by the sound/video booths. Although these cricket ground are very wide, much wider than the football fields of Europe & the USA. If I could pick anywhere, it's be front GA. But if I was picking seats I think I'd be picking the lower level (level 1), in Block M. As this Edge's side,& the side the b-stage is on. Hoping I'd bit be obstructed by one of the wider delay towers. Next choice would the opposite block, Block D , on Adam's side. Followed by blocks N or C, which may have a bit of an instruction from a delay tower. I'd be wary of getting seats in the lower level in blocks A, B, P or I, as these may be obstructed by the sound/video booths, or delay towers. Note: this is all a bit of guess work, as nobody knows the exact layout. Plus I've never been to this venue.
  19. It's called "dynamic pricing" & Live Nation have been doing it for a few years now. I'd be blaming them, not Ticketek. As Ticketek just sells tickets at whatever price the artist (& their promoter, Live Nation in this case) has set. As I said, this has been going on a while. To capture some of the market which scalpers were getting, selling tickets at exorbitant prices to desperate fans. So now, instead of pricing tickets quite cheaply, & aiming for instant sell outs, which promoters would now consider to be a missed opportunity, they have increased the price of tickets. Hoping to get close to sell outs, just before show time, & decreasing the price of tickets, if this doesn't look like happening. It relies on FOMO, & the fear of the band's most dedicated fans missing out. Many will be desperate, & pay exorbitant prices, to make sure they get a seat. While casuals will baulk at these prices. Casuals will then get the bargains, if prices are reduced. Good way to really upset your most dedicated fans! Especially in the presales, when the best seats aren't even offered. So fans pay a lot for mediocre seats, only to see better seats offered later, often at cheaper times. Not much you can do now, except suck it up, live & learn. Or if you're a gambling type, buy those cheaper, better tickets, & hope you can sell yours. Which may be tough if there's good seats available right up to show time. In your favour is the fact there's only one show in Brisbane. So it might sell out, making those poor seats of yours desirable for somebody. If it makes you feel any better, it could be worse. For Sydney 2, Bay 9 seats are selling for $62. These same seats cost $367 for Sydney 1! My sister has a GA ticket for Sydney 1, but took advantage of the price reductions for Sydney 2. She paid $62 for a seat that was previously $265. So armed with this knowledge you too could pick up a bargain or two at future concerts. Though it is a bit of a gamble, & gambling on low demand may not be worth the risk for people travelling to the show, or those who must be at the show! Although there are ALWAYS ticket drops, in the days leading up to the show.
  20. Here's one I put on U2Start. As described above. Startingwith the JT album, to leave room for highlights off the recent albums & arena tours. Long set, as this part of the world has been ignored for a while. Never going to happen. The Joshua Tree + i+e+i1. Where the Streets Have No Name2. I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For3. With or Without You4. Bullet the Blue Sky5. Running to Stand Still6. Red Hill Mining Town7. In God's Country8. Trip Through Your Wires9. One Tree Hill10. Exit11. Mothers of the Disappeared*** Intermission (Love Is All We Have Left) ***12. The Blackout13. Lights Of Home / Red Flag Day14. Zoo Station15. The Fly16. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses17. Desire / All I Want is You18. Acrobat19. Summer Of Love / Starting At The Sun20. New Year's Day / A Sort Of Homecoming21. Raised By Wolves22. Until the End of the World****** Encore ******23. Beautiful Day / Vertigo24. Gone / Bad25. One26. Love Is Bigger Than Anything in Its Way / The Little Things That Give You Away
  21. Me too. Loved both arena tours & feel some of the new songs will translate well in a stadium. Especially Blackout on the mother of all screens! I was surprised how good Love is Bigger was live, & think it could be a great closer. I feel that the old school start to JT 2017 worked, but didn't enjoy the set after the JT album. So I'd definitely want changes to the later parts of the set, to incorporate SoI & SoE. Actually, although I enjoyed it, I hope they also scrap the old school opening & start with the JT, straight off the bat! Unlike Europe & the US in summer, all shows for this leg will start after sunset. So it will be possible to open with Streets, without the visuals being negatively effected. Yes, I know, most people think it would be crazy to open with Streets. It's best with a good build up, & a great segue. It also gets the crowd going, bringing that middle part of a show to life. True. But opening with the JT leaves a lot of room later in the show for the newer material & highlights from the arena tours, which this part of the world missed out on. After Mothers of the Disappeared, we could get a trippy intermission, along the lines of The Fly, HMTMKMKM & LIAWHL. Then straight into The Blackout. Boom, total change of tempo & atmosphere. Perfect to introduce U2's newer material (& some classics) to Oceania & Asia. Highly unlikely, probably not a popular view, but I think it could be great.
  22. Dynamic price reductions for Sydney 2 are at extreme levels now. Bay 30, was CAT 1 ($365), now CAT 5 ($62). Just the final few rows atm. As it's concourse (lower bowl), there's a chance of some obstruction from a sound booth, depending on where the booths are located, but should be ok as these are $365 seats for Sydney 1.
  23. As Max has said, nothing is known at this stage. Although it is common for GA in Japan to enter by ticket number, with no queues forming until the late afternoon, just before entry. Ticket numbers are expected to be allocated in the order they were purchased. So people who purchased tickets early in the Red Hill presale will likely be the first onto the arena floor. It's a ll guess work at this stage though. Japan looks like such an amazing place. If you haven't been there before, & have the time, I'd recommend arriving early & spending some extra time there. Getting your ticket from 7-eleven when you arrive, & checking up on the GA process. That's what I'll be doing. Although it's not in central Tokyo, transport to Saitama Super Arena looks quite easy & efficient. So it's possible to stay in areas of central Tokyo & be at the arena in under an hour.
  24. Lots of price reductions for Sydney 2 over the last week. Bay 10, now CAT 2 $265 (previously CAT 1 $370). Bay 12, now CAT 3 $193 (previously CAT 2 $265). Plus the big one, CAT 5 $62 reduced from CAT 2 $265! Initially these large reductions to CAT 5 were for the back few rows of the Churchill Stand (section 10) & the Brewongle Stand (section 6), which is the rear of Edge's side. Then it moved to the final few rows of the Trumper Stand (sections 310, 311, 312 & 313), which is the rear of Adam's side. But reductions ended up occurring as far forward as row J in the Trumper Stand, which is just in the front half of the rows (which are A-Z, AA, BB & CC). Managed to get 2 cheap seats for my sister in the Trumper Stand, section 313, row K. $62, bargain! These reductions to CAT 5 have currently moved back to row X of the Brewongle stand (section 6), one of the final few rows.
  25. More price reductions for Auckland 2. $60 East Stand uppers available.
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