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  1. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Nothing makes me more enthousiastic than to hear other forummembers say that U2 will come back next year to prolong this year's tour. But U2 has got a contract with Live Nation that expires in 2020 and they are obliged to put out one more record. Am I right? Time seems to be running out. Songs of Innocence was planned to be a trilogy at the start. We have got the second album now and some fans are calling the yet to be released third album " Ascent ". These are my thoughts: in 2019 U2 will be making the new album. In 2020 U2 will release the new cd and do the "Ascent" tour. I am very curious what U2 is going to negotiate with Live Nation because their contract expires within 2 years. That would predict a lot of what U2 wants to do after 2020. U2 is still alive and kicking. Some fans thought "Ascent" would be their last album, but knowing Bono's yearning to be heard through his songs U2 will certainly make more music after 2020.
  2. Achtung Baby: why?

    You all talking about ACHTUNG BABY has made me put on the cd again. This is against my routine, because when a new U2 cd is out I usually only listen to the new stuff. It is so difficult to learn to appreciate a new U2 cd for me when I keep comparing it to the older stuff. But I am very thankful you all start talking about ACHTUNG BABY AGAIN, because with all of your inspiring posts about ACHTUNG BABY these magnificent feelings inside of me keep rising up! Because I LOVED and I still LOVE ACHTUNG BABY so much!!! This forum works really like a time travel machine sometimes with wonderful memories flowing to the top again... Thinking back when ACHTUNG BABY was first released I recall it was an exhiliariting time for U2 fans. I have never in my life waited with more longing for a record release than that of ACHTUNG BABY. I still remember where I was ( in my run down student dump) when I first heard The Fly. Fortunately my student room was in an attic, without neighbours, so I could play The Fly at full volume, which I did hundreds of times. To be honest, ACHTUNG BABY is the ONLY U2 cd of which I lIke EVERY song. And I will only play it in the perfect order it is. I want to thank the original poster of this ACHTUNG BABY thread. I really get enthused now about thinking why we cant make a seperate forum item for EVERY U2 cd. Every U2 fan has its own fondest U2 memories starting with some of the many U2 cd's. For me it really started with the Joshua Tree, but my love for U2 actually exploded with ACHTUNG BABY. All my teenage frustrations had found a way to free themselves through singing out loud the lyrics of ACHTUNG BABY. Oh how I wish U2 could pull another one of like ACHTUNG BABY....
  3. What's "Zoo"?

    The song's lyrics were inspired by a surrealistic story about Berlin from World War II that Bono heard, when overnight bombing damaged the Berlin Tiergarten (Zoo) and allowed animals to escape and wander around the city's rubble. Europa Thomas it pleases me to see you are so curious about one of U2's most extra ordinary periods: ZOO TV. It was sheer madness back then, anything was possible at the time according to Larry. The ZOO TV show took a live on it's own. It blew audiences away worldwide. It certainly did blow me away! "I am ready for the laughing gas. I am ready for what's next. .....I am ready for the crush......" What an opening. Brrr. I love it to this day. Especially the live performances are among the best U2 has ever done.
  4. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Me being very critical of the new album in the very beginning I must confess (to my own joy) that Songs of Experience is growing on me. I really start liking the songs. After some months now the songs have become part of me. Even wake up with them in my head sometimes. The first live shows dates are coming closer everyday. U2 must be rehearsing these songs live right now. I wont be present, (no tickets!), but I will follow them online on youtube when they start in the States. I am very curious HOW U2 is gonna play these songs live. Live is the place that can make or break a U2 song. Even when a song sounds crap on the cd it can still sound great live and vice versa... Are they gonna use strings? Synthesizers? A choir ? A capella ? Songs of Experience lends itself for an entirely different presentation. The BBC Christmas show was an example of that. Are there any rumours yet to what U2 is going to do live ? Multiple stages I read somewhere..
  5. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    What has happened to me with Songs of Experience is that I often wake up with an Experience song in my head. Right away, first thought in the morning is a U2 melody from their new album. It varies which one it is. I have never had that before. I like it. Start the day with a U2 song. As a toddler I used to sing songs after I had woken up, that's what my parents told me anyway, because I can't remember. But when I got older I rarely had a song in my head when I woke up. Untill this new release of Songs of Experience. Now my head is like a U2 jukebox every other morning. Lovely ! Manohlive you get intrigued by lyrics, but have you got special songs from which the lyrics keep stuck in your mind? I often have it with the openingstrack "Love is all we have left", which I didnt even like very much at the beginning, although it is changing now. But that line sticks in my head like glue. I love it. It is a great line.
  6. The U2 song that saved your life

    I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. (The gospel version in Harlem, New York, during the Rattle and Hum movie) Bono already said "Found" was a gospel song, but then hearing it being sung by this gospelchoir in Harlem just was heavenly. There is something about this song that just wants me to sing it out loud with all my heart. Bono's singing is so incredible. Danoil Lanois compared the range of Bono's voice in this song to that of an opera singer. And I love it when the whole audience sings along when it is being played live. "Found" has such deep rooted feelings of despair and joy at the same time that when I feel down I can always use this song to lift myself up. It is a serene song played so delicately but with such intense feelings. It seems to be one of those classic U2 songs that come along once in a while as a gift to us U2 fans. I love to read other people favorite choices and I notice how difficult it is to choose just one U2 song. I am tempted too to add another favorite... but I dont....
  7. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Grammy awards quote of Bono : "Blessed are the sh*thole countries, for they gave us the American Dream". I never listen to the lyrics of the U2 songs, but when Bono goes off into politics I do pay attention.
  8. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Interesting to read on this forum about other peoples first reactions back in the eighties to classic albums like Joshua Tree etc. I can remember the first time I heard "With or Without You" on the radio. I thought they had sold out to a commercial sound. I didnt want to listen to the rest of the album and I didnt go to the concert. Worst decision I ever made and which I still regret. I couldnt have been more wrong. But I had yet to become a real U2 fan back then. And WHEN I truly started listening to the whole Joshua Tree album I did became a U2 fan for life... As mentioned by many others and also by "unforgettableu2" the band U2 has a reputation of always trying to change their sound from album to album. I know that by now, but the PRODUCTION of THE SOUND of this album sounds too soft for my personal taste. I love U2 sounding lean and mean but at the same time keep preaching love. Hard shell but with a heart of gold. Although I still have problems with this soft "boybandproduction" sound maybe I am wrong again and will the songs only come to life after some more weeks of listening.... I am curious HOW U2 will shape the live concerts with these new songs on SOE. Their BBC string version of All I Want is You (Gorgeous!) maybe is an hopeful indication that they will try to make a very intimate concert with acoustic instruments... Bono and the Edge played "Get out of your own way" with just a guitar in the Berlin subway. It sounded great played live although I disliked the cd version of the very same song. That melody of "Get out of your own way" stayed in my mind the last days. And after hearing it live I COULD listen to the lesser cd version and appreciated it better. So there is hope. I am on this forum because I am really big U2 fan. I really want to like this album because U2 has been the soundtrack of my whole adult life... I want them to fare well, I want them to excell. They didnt excell on the cd but they probably will when they perform the songs live. U2 always rocks live, even when they play a ballad. Rock is like Soul to me. You have it or you dont. U2 has always got SOUL and although I think the energy of this soul gets muddled by the boybandproduction sound of this cd I have good hope that the songs will SHINE live...
  9. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    I actually was the one who made that quote that the boyband producers on SOE messed up this new album for me. I actually do think onerepublic is a boyband. Boybands can make great songs too. I have seen ryan tedder live on a festival and it is perfect music for crowdsinging. Really lovely songs. But U2 is NOT a boyband in my opinion and should stay far away from such a sound. It's got nothing to do with rock and roll. Keep ryan tedder as far away as possible from u2 in the future. I dont mind acoustic or slow songs. U2 was always very good at that. I just get annoyed about a layer of sound over U2 songs which producers put there to PLEASE. This record sounds too safe, too dull. And I dont even believe all the songs are bad. 5 songs I really like. 8 songs I just cant listen too however hard I have tried. Hopefully some of those 8 "boyband" songs can become alot better when played live. And I have good reasons for this hope of mine, because I have heard Bono sing with the Edge in the Berlin Metro. (Check it out on youtube). He sang one new song ( get out of your own way) which I didnt like on the album but I DID LIKE it when he sang it live there and then in Berlin. Just raw and UNproduced I like that song. WITH production on the SOE cd I cringe... That confirms my believe that it is the production of this album which makes me dislike it. Not the songs themselves. Other example: I heard "The Little Things" performed live many times and I thougt it was a good song. But the boyband production messed it up sonically on the cd. They smeared that boyband softrock sound over this song which killed it for me. I dont want to put Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois on a pedestal because they messed up Zooropa pretty bad. But at least they took a risk with Zooropa. Great risk. Because almost NOTHING on that album sounded like the U2 we knew before. All the other albums produced with Eno and Lanois are among the most popular and most critically acclaimed albums: Fire, Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, All that You Cant Leave Behind, No Line on the Horizon. The 360 tour which accompanied the No Line album was their biggest tour ever. Even the biggest tour in history of ALL bands. That album was produced by Eno and Lanois. They have magic ears and have the talent to make an album sound as ONE. And they take risks. Sometimes they fail, but at least they try out new stuff. But SOE sounds dull and too safe exept for a few songs. No risks taken on SOE whatsoever. On 8 songs the production of SOE SOUNDS like a boyband. But I still have good hope for the live performance of these "boyband"songs. Because U2 always makes the best performances live. EVERY time....
  10. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Dermo, you arent missing anything. Beware of the even bigger disappointment when you actually HEAR the new album. What can one expect from an album with 8 boyband producers, 9 different mixers, recorded in 10 places. Compare that to the Joshua Tree with 2 producers, 1 mixer, recorded in 1 place... Less is more....
  11. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Kinsa I am glad that you really love this cd. U2 fans are really passionate and I love that. U2 can still move me too, otherwise I wouldnt be here. But I get goosebumps when I see them live. Little to none goosebumps on this cd however for me. Listened to it 25 times front to end. 5 good songs. 3 or 4 could be much better performed live. That's 8 out of 13. Not good, not bad. U2 have become like the stones. Nobody expects greatness for a new cd but just as with the Stones once they perform live they always rock and shine like in the good old days. Some of the songs on this cd have already been performed live. And I liked those songs in a live setting. But I cringe when I hear those same songs performed on this cd. Even Ordinary Love on the deluxe cd is screwed up with too much production. That song was great as original. And it was superb when I heard U2 play a live and acoustic version of Ordinary Love in Brazil! Now U2 sounds like Coldplay on their latest cd, just like any other boyband. The songs still can be good, but the sound is so unlike what U2 have ever made before. In a bad way. Give me Daniel Lanois back as producer for the next cd.
  12. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    Maybe you should listen to the last coldplay cd, they sound like a boyband too now. And I loved coldplay in the past. But it is the production of the sound that makes this cd sound so horrible. U2 played some of these songs very well live. The producers messed this cd up. Too many different producers. Daniel Lanois produced Fire, Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, All that you cant leave behind, No Line on the Horizon. I love all those cd's. Songs of Innocence didnt blend well either but I loved the songs in the end and I thought Songs of Innocence was a brave move. Because it had no real pop hits on it. But this new cd should have been called POP. And that I mean in the most negative way. Get Lanois back. Get Larry's drums back. Adam's bass back. Edge's guitar back. I miss them on this overproduced cd. U2 is supposed to be a rock band not a boyband.
  13. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    I certainly dont believe this cd is their swan song. But I do believe it is their worst PRODUCED cd since October. Get Lanois back as producer. Or let's just wait till they play these songs live. Live changes everything for U2's songs. Some new songs I thougt were really ok played live. U2 put so much time in thinking about this cd. They rerecorded everything. Sometimes too much fiddling is just too much! U2 sounds like a boyband now, I just cant get used to it, even after 15 times listening. Bono's voice is artificially hightened with a vocoder. That's boyband stuff. Or Coldplay stuff... Why did they do that?
  14. This SOE is shaping up to be a gem

    I have been a fan since the Unforgettable Fire, but the sound of this new U2 cd is the same as an average boyband. Bad production. They even use a vocoder in some songs ! And it's not even in a funny way. U2 has turned Coldplay. (For the kids, you know). I have heard some of the songs on this album played live and they sounded good. But I dislike the production on this cd. I have a theory that every cd without Daniel Lanois as producer just doesnt lift the songs beyond ordinary average pop songs. Once performed live those average produced songs often gain strength. I wish that in the future U2 could produce a NEW cd that is performed live. Live is where U2 really shines. I love them live ! Or bring back the soundmagician called Mr Lanois....