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Wow.

Basher, I think it is, I was commenting on more than just your post. Someone on here was talking about defending their interest in U2 and several complaining about the value of the site ...

 

I've been reading more posts as this thread develops. There must be a way or place for us to tell what we think is wrong or missing and to suggest what we'd like to improve upon it.

 

Didn't this thread start about a photo of Bono with some girls young enough to be his daughters? I find the judgments of that photo interesting because we don't know the circumstances surrounding it or how it was cropped. If there is a judgment to be made I think Ali Hewson gets to make it not me.

 

The thread kind of devolved from there into a whole bunch of stuff about the band and this site that I'm just now reading.

 

I'm relatively new here and having fun. I don't know how I'll feel in a year from now. Sorry you're not enjoying it.

ahhhh yes, I recall that .....Bono did nothing wrong with those little skinny stick girls. If he was with Mtv video whores then I'd be concerned. Those girls just flauting on facebook that they met Bono and went too far. People went all out of control about it.... Since when is it a crime to take photos with a HOT rock star, hehehe. Anyway now it's understood why Bono's wife is so private and doesn't say much. I think she is a wonderful woman, and must be so confident!  I envy her for so many reasons not only being married to Bono.  If I  were in the same situation I would be going off on everyone when they said things about my husband, thats my italian temper.LOL.

Well, people will always have their opinions, opinions are like "as___" everybody has one.  I am a happy camper with regards to the money I spend on u2 related things, memberships, tickets and lithographs, etc. i do think the tank tops are a little expensive but the quality is good so I guess it works out in the end. :) smilesssssssssssss!

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I admire ali as well. she is a strong and confident woman. shes not in the tabloids, because she is elegant and wise, strong, smart, secure and has no reason to bother with all of that bs...!

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Wow.

Basher, I think it is, I was commenting on more than just your post. Someone on here was talking about defending their interest in U2 and several complaining about the value of the site ...

 

I've been reading more posts as this thread develops. There must be a way or place for us to tell what we think is wrong or missing and to suggest what we'd like to improve upon it.

 

Didn't this thread start about a photo of Bono with some girls young enough to be his daughters? I find the judgments of that photo interesting because we don't know the circumstances surrounding it or how it was cropped. If there is a judgment to be made I think Ali Hewson gets to make it not me.

 

The thread kind of devolved from there into a whole bunch of stuff about the band and this site that I'm just now reading.

 

I'm relatively new here and having fun. I don't know how I'll feel in a year from now. Sorry you're not enjoying it.

No, the thread started with the simple question "have U2 become greedy?"

 

After a few pages of discussion about the complete lack of value of the club membership, multiple formats and expensive tickets,

 we also discussed how Bono personally has damaged U2s image/ perception by hanging out with war criminals and preaching ad nauseum at the concerts.

 I posted that photo to highlight the damage he has done to his image.

 

 

Even though I'm sure we said it over and over in here earlier, that picture gave many, many people who are dying to give Bono shit, some inredible fuel.

 

To those that are saying "it's innocent, you don't know the circumsatnces", well yes that is maybe entirely true.

They may be freinds, or fans etc.

And personally I don't mind at all if Bono has a breakfast of coke off the backside of some 18yr old call-girl -  as long as he does it in private.

 

That photo, as innocent as it most probably is, still makes Bono look like a seedy old pervert.

That is the point I was making.

And yes boys will be boys, and Kris I love you man, but you're not 49 and your not the world's biggest rockstar

 

As for "only Ali should make the judgement" ,

I call bullshit on that.

We have been fans for decades, and have every right to be disappointed with our hero when he poses for a photo which puts him in a stupid position.

 

It's like saying to Michael Jackson fans " don't judge him on being a kiddie fiddler, only God can do that"

Bollocks, Jacko was a perv and it destroyed his legacy no matter how good his music was.

 

But the photo still has nothing to do with the OPs staement.

 

I posted that photo for a laugh if you must know- hence the caption I put with it.

None of us are stupid enough to really be upset by Bon Bon getting a bit of bikini on his lap.

 Quite the contrary. 

 

 

 

As for your ridiculous and cliched " why don't you cancel your subscription" nonsense

 

Well congrats. We were waiting for hours for you to turn up and spout that tripe.

 

You win the prize.

 

 

We subscribe, and have done for years, because we love U2 and want to be a part of the fan club.

Pretty simple yeah?

 

What we're asking is what is the $50 for, when you can chat here for free, they sell a better version of the fan gift to anyone for half the price, and you can get every single bit of news on U2 from @u2.com days if not weeks before you can get it here.

 

And you may be new and welcome, for for many we've subscibed for 5 or 6 years just to get old news, some music that as big fans we already own, and a forum.  Is it wrong that we would want a bit more for the price of admission?  Does that make as bad fans?

 

 

And to those that are blaming Fanfire, bollocks to that.

 

I'm pretty sure Basher, Mac and the rest didn't subscribe to Fanfire.com, or spends loads on tickets to see Fanfire in concert.

 

It's the official website of the biggest band in the world. Of course it's their responsibility.

 

And if you read any of the complainees posts here, you would have seen most of us praising how good NLOTH was, and got a feel for how passionate we are.

 

 

But the Bono is God brigade can't see through a bit of constructive criticism in here. Never could and never will.

Yes everybody changes, and the music changes. People change blah, blah.

We understand that

But that is not actually the point.

U2 used to give a shit about their fans.

That is the point.

 

 

Mick James.

One of the world's biggest U2 fans.

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scout6']Wow.

Basher, I think it is, I was commenting on more than just your post. Someone on here was talking about defending their interest in U2 and several complaining about the value of the site ...

 

I've been reading more posts as this thread develops. There must be a way or place for us to tell what we think is wrong or missing and to suggest what we'd like to improve upon it.

 

Didn't this thread start about a photo of Bono with some girls young enough to be his daughters? I find the judgments of that photo interesting because we don't know the circumstances surrounding it or how it was cropped. If there is a judgment to be made I think Ali Hewson gets to make it not me.

 

The thread kind of devolved from there into a whole bunch of stuff about the band and this site that I'm just now reading.

 

I'm relatively new here and having fun. I don't know how I'll feel in a year from now. Sorry you're not enjoying it.

No, the thread started with the simple question "have U2 become greedy?"

 

After a few pages of discussion about the complete lack of value of the club membership, multiple formats and expensive tickets.

 We also discussed how Bono personally has damaged U2s image/ perception by hanging out with war criminals and preaching ad nauseum at the concerts.

 I posted that photo to highlight the damage he has done to his image.

 

Even though I'm sure we said it over and over in here earlier, that picture gave many, many people who are dying to give Bono shit, some inredible fuel.

 

To those that are saying "it's innocent, you don't know the circumsatnces", well yes that is maybe entirely true.

They may be freinds, or fans etc.

And personally I don't mind at all if Bono has a breakfast of coke off the backside of some 18yr old call-girl -  as long as he does it in private.

 

That photo, as innocent as it most probably is, still makes Bono look like a seedy old pervert.

That is the point I was making.

And yes boys will be boys, and Kris I love you man, but you're not 49 and your not the world's biggest rockstar

 

As for "only Ali should make the judgement" ,

I call bullshit on that.

We have been fans for decades, and have every right to be disappointed with our hero when he poses for a photo which puts him in a stupid position.

 

It's like saying to Michael Jackson fans " don't judge him on being a kiddie fiddler, only God can do that"

Bollocks, Jacko was a perv and it destroyed his legacy no matter how good his music was.

 

But the photo still has nothing to do with the OPs staement.

I posted that photo for a laugh if you must know.  None of us are stupid enough to really be upset by Bon Bon getting a bit of bikini on his lap. Quite the contrary. 

 

 

 

As for your ridiculous and cliched " why don't you cancel your subscription" nonsense

 

Well congrats. We were waiting for hours for you to turn up and spout that tripe.

 

You win the prize.

 

 

We subscribe, and have done for years, because we love U2 and want to be a part of the fan club.

Pretty simple yeah?

 

What we're asking is what is the $50 for, when you can chat here for free, they sell a better version of the fan gift to anyone for half the price, and you can get every single bit of news on U2 from @u2.com days if not weeks before you can get it here.

 

And you may be new and welcome, for for many we've subscibed for 5 or 6 years just to get old news, some music that as big fans we already own, and a forum.  Is it wrong that we would want a bit more for the price of admission?  Does that make as bad fans?

 

 

And to those that are blaming Fanfire, bollocks to that.

 

I'm pretty sure Basher, Mac and the rest didn't subscribe to Fanfire.com, or spends loads on tickets to see Fanfire in concert.

 

It's the official website of the biggest band in the world. Of course it's their responsibility.

 

And if you read any of the complainees posts here, you would have seen most of us praising how good NLOTH was, and got a feel for how passionate we are.

 

 

But the Bono is God brigade can't see through a bit of constructive criticism in here. Never could and never will.

Yes everybody changes, and the music changes. People change blah, blah.

We understand that

But that is not actually the point.

U2 used to give a shit about their fans.

That is the point.

 

 

Mick James.

One of the world's biggest U2 fans.

 

 

 

 

Don't you think sometimes the membership could be an advantage for buying tickets.  For example, a GA ticket on a reseller site like stub hub can be  up to 5 or 6x or more than the face value. In that case you would be saving money. In the past I have tried to buy GA tickets for a show after using my 4 tickets from the presale and wanted to see another show and  I didnt succeed. It is worth it if you  know the band would perform in your town and you wanted tickets > Obviously now that's not a give, cuz  now they do everything in a weird backwards  way, and announce the first night of the US tour leg  last and then it seems people get cheated in a way because they thought that u2 wouldnt be in their town and so they bought tickets to another show. that is very annoying. i dont remember it being like that in the past.  am i correct?

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I admire ali as well. she is a strong and confident woman. shes not in the tabloids, because she is elegant and wise, strong, smart, secure and has no reason to bother with all of that bs

 

she's also a great mother. keepin her kids away from the spotlight. i think that says something about her. look at the other celebs how they flaunt their kids and its disgusting to me.

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scout6']Wow.

Basher, I think it is, I was commenting on more than just your post. Someone on here was talking about defending their interest in U2 and several complaining about the value of the site ...

 

I've been reading more posts as this thread develops. There must be a way or place for us to tell what we think is wrong or missing and to suggest what we'd like to improve upon it.

 

Didn't this thread start about a photo of Bono with some girls young enough to be his daughters? I find the judgments of that photo interesting because we don't know the circumstances surrounding it or how it was cropped. If there is a judgment to be made I think Ali Hewson gets to make it not me.

 

The thread kind of devolved from there into a whole bunch of stuff about the band and this site that I'm just now reading.

 

I'm relatively new here and having fun. I don't know how I'll feel in a year from now. Sorry you're not enjoying it.

No, the thread started with the simple question "have U2 become greedy?"

 

After a few pages of discussion about the complete lack of value of the club membership, multiple formats and expensive tickets.

 We also discussed how Bono personally has damaged U2s image/ perception by hanging out with war criminals and preaching ad nauseum at the concerts.

 I posted that photo to highlight the damage he has done to his image.

 

Even though I'm sure we said it over and over in here earlier, that picture gave many, many people who are dying to give Bono shit, some inredible fuel.

 

To those that are saying "it's innocent, you don't know the circumsatnces", well yes that is maybe entirely true.

They may be freinds, or fans etc.

And personally I don't mind at all if Bono has a breakfast of coke off the backside of some 18yr old call-girl -  as long as he does it in private.

 

That photo, as innocent as it most probably is, still makes Bono look like a seedy old pervert.

That is the point I was making.

And yes boys will be boys, and Kris I love you man, but you're not 49 and your not the world's biggest rockstar

 

As for "only Ali should make the judgement" ,

I call bullshit on that.

We have been fans for decades, and have every right to be disappointed with our hero when he poses for a photo which puts him in a stupid position.

 

It's like saying to Michael Jackson fans " don't judge him on being a kiddie fiddler, only God can do that"

Bollocks, Jacko was a perv and it destroyed his legacy no matter how good his music was.

 

But the photo still has nothing to do with the OPs staement.

I posted that photo for a laugh if you must know.  None of us are stupid enough to really be upset by Bon Bon getting a bit of bikini on his lap. Quite the contrary. 

 

 

 

As for your ridiculous and cliched " why don't you cancel your subscription" nonsense

 

Well congrats. We were waiting for hours for you to turn up and spout that tripe.

 

You win the prize.

 

 

We subscribe, and have done for years, because we love U2 and want to be a part of the fan club.

Pretty simple yeah?

 

What we're asking is what is the $50 for, when you can chat here for free, they sell a better version of the fan gift to anyone for half the price, and you can get every single bit of news on U2 from @u2.com days if not weeks before you can get it here.

 

And you may be new and welcome, for for many we've subscibed for 5 or 6 years just to get old news, some music that as big fans we already own, and a forum.  Is it wrong that we would want a bit more for the price of admission?  Does that make as bad fans?

 

 

And to those that are blaming Fanfire, bollocks to that.

 

I'm pretty sure Basher, Mac and the rest didn't subscribe to Fanfire.com, or spends loads on tickets to see Fanfire in concert.

 

It's the official website of the biggest band in the world. Of course it's their responsibility.

 

And if you read any of the complainees posts here, you would have seen most of us praising how good NLOTH was, and got a feel for how passionate we are.

 

 

But the Bono is God brigade can't see through a bit of constructive criticism in here. Never could and never will.

Yes everybody changes, and the music changes. People change blah, blah.

We understand that

But that is not actually the point.

U2 used to give a shit about their fans.

That is the point.

 

 

Mick James.

One of the world's biggest U2 fans.

 

 

 

 

I'm just thinking to myself..isn't everyone greedy in their own little  way? everyone wants what they want, when they want it....obviously, im talking about the average person  not the clergy who take vows of poverty. just people in general- average person to the celebs and the musicians. aren't we all a bit selfish in our daily lives? except for certain few of us, everyone is out to please #1 and their families.

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scout6']Wow.

Basher, I think it is, I was commenting on more than just your post. Someone on here was talking about defending their interest in U2 and several complaining about the value of the site ...

 

I've been reading more posts as this thread develops. There must be a way or place for us to tell what we think is wrong or missing and to suggest what we'd like to improve upon it.

 

Didn't this thread start about a photo of Bono with some girls young enough to be his daughters? I find the judgments of that photo interesting because we don't know the circumstances surrounding it or how it was cropped. If there is a judgment to be made I think Ali Hewson gets to make it not me.

 

The thread kind of devolved from there into a whole bunch of stuff about the band and this site that I'm just now reading.

 

I'm relatively new here and having fun. I don't know how I'll feel in a year from now. Sorry you're not enjoying it.

No, the thread started with the simple question "have U2 become greedy?"

 

After a few pages of discussion about the complete lack of value of the club membership, multiple formats and expensive tickets.

 We also discussed how Bono personally has damaged U2s image/ perception by hanging out with war criminals and preaching ad nauseum at the concerts.

 I posted that photo to highlight the damage he has done to his image.

 

Even though I'm sure we said it over and over in here earlier, that picture gave many, many people who are dying to give Bono shit, some inredible fuel.

 

To those that are saying "it's innocent, you don't know the circumsatnces", well yes that is maybe entirely true.

They may be freinds, or fans etc.

And personally I don't mind at all if Bono has a breakfast of coke off the backside of some 18yr old call-girl -  as long as he does it in private.

 

That photo, as innocent as it most probably is, still makes Bono look like a seedy old pervert.

That is the point I was making.

And yes boys will be boys, and Kris I love you man, but you're not 49 and your not the world's biggest rockstar

 

As for "only Ali should make the judgement" ,

I call bullshit on that.

We have been fans for decades, and have every right to be disappointed with our hero when he poses for a photo which puts him in a stupid position.

 

It's like saying to Michael Jackson fans " don't judge him on being a kiddie fiddler, only God can do that"

Bollocks, Jacko was a perv and it destroyed his legacy no matter how good his music was.

 

But the photo still has nothing to do with the OPs staement.

I posted that photo for a laugh if you must know.  None of us are stupid enough to really be upset by Bon Bon getting a bit of bikini on his lap. Quite the contrary. 

 

 

 

As for your ridiculous and cliched " why don't you cancel your subscription" nonsense

 

Well congrats. We were waiting for hours for you to turn up and spout that tripe.

 

You win the prize.

 

 

We subscribe, and have done for years, because we love U2 and want to be a part of the fan club.

Pretty simple yeah?

 

What we're asking is what is the $50 for, when you can chat here for free, they sell a better version of the fan gift to anyone for half the price, and you can get every single bit of news on U2 from @u2.com days if not weeks before you can get it here.

 

And you may be new and welcome, for for many we've subscibed for 5 or 6 years just to get old news, some music that as big fans we already own, and a forum.  Is it wrong that we would want a bit more for the price of admission?  Does that make as bad fans?

 

 

And to those that are blaming Fanfire, bollocks to that.

 

I'm pretty sure Basher, Mac and the rest didn't subscribe to Fanfire.com, or spends loads on tickets to see Fanfire in concert.

 

It's the official website of the biggest band in the world. Of course it's their responsibility.

 

And if you read any of the complainees posts here, you would have seen most of us praising how good NLOTH was, and got a feel for how passionate we are.

 

 

But the Bono is God brigade can't see through a bit of constructive criticism in here. Never could and never will.

Yes everybody changes, and the music changes. People change blah, blah.

We understand that

But that is not actually the point.

U2 used to give a shit about their fans.

That is the point.

 

 

Mick James.

One of the world's biggest U2 fans.

 

 

 

not to go on about nonsensical things,

i was thinking one day,  the photos - i thought there was something very staged about them. 

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scout6']Wow.

Basher, I think it is, I was commenting on more than just your post. Someone on here was talking about defending their interest in U2 and several complaining about the value of the site ...

 

I've been reading more posts as this thread develops. There must be a way or place for us to tell what we think is wrong or missing and to suggest what we'd like to improve upon it.

 

Didn't this thread start about a photo of Bono with some girls young enough to be his daughters? I find the judgments of that photo interesting because we don't know the circumstances surrounding it or how it was cropped. If there is a judgment to be made I think Ali Hewson gets to make it not me.

 

The thread kind of devolved from there into a whole bunch of stuff about the band and this site that I'm just now reading.

 

I'm relatively new here and having fun. I don't know how I'll feel in a year from now. Sorry you're not enjoying it.

No, the thread started with the simple question "have U2 become greedy?"

 

After a few pages of discussion about the complete lack of value of the club membership, multiple formats and expensive tickets.

 We also discussed how Bono personally has damaged U2s image/ perception by hanging out with war criminals and preaching ad nauseum at the concerts.

 I posted that photo to highlight the damage he has done to his image.

 

Even though I'm sure we said it over and over in here earlier, that picture gave many, many people who are dying to give Bono shit, some inredible fuel.

 

To those that are saying "it's innocent, you don't know the circumsatnces", well yes that is maybe entirely true.

They may be freinds, or fans etc.

And personally I don't mind at all if Bono has a breakfast of coke off the backside of some 18yr old call-girl -  as long as he does it in private.

 

That photo, as innocent as it most probably is, still makes Bono look like a seedy old pervert.

That is the point I was making.

And yes boys will be boys, and Kris I love you man, but you're not 49 and your not the world's biggest rockstar

 

As for "only Ali should make the judgement" ,

I call bullshit on that.

We have been fans for decades, and have every right to be disappointed with our hero when he poses for a photo which puts him in a stupid position.

 

It's like saying to Michael Jackson fans " don't judge him on being a kiddie fiddler, only God can do that"

Bollocks, Jacko was a perv and it destroyed his legacy no matter how good his music was.

 

But the photo still has nothing to do with the OPs staement.

I posted that photo for a laugh if you must know.  None of us are stupid enough to really be upset by Bon Bon getting a bit of bikini on his lap. Quite the contrary. 

 

 

 

As for your ridiculous and cliched " why don't you cancel your subscription" nonsense

 

Well congrats. We were waiting for hours for you to turn up and spout that tripe.

 

You win the prize.

 

 

We subscribe, and have done for years, because we love U2 and want to be a part of the fan club.

Pretty simple yeah?

 

What we're asking is what is the $50 for, when you can chat here for free, they sell a better version of the fan gift to anyone for half the price, and you can get every single bit of news on U2 from @u2.com days if not weeks before you can get it here.

 

And you may be new and welcome, for for many we've subscibed for 5 or 6 years just to get old news, some music that as big fans we already own, and a forum.  Is it wrong that we would want a bit more for the price of admission?  Does that make as bad fans?

 

 

And to those that are blaming Fanfire, bollocks to that.

 

I'm pretty sure Basher, Mac and the rest didn't subscribe to Fanfire.com, or spends loads on tickets to see Fanfire in concert.

 

It's the official website of the biggest band in the world. Of course it's their responsibility.

 

And if you read any of the complainees posts here, you would have seen most of us praising how good NLOTH was, and got a feel for how passionate we are.

 

 

But the Bono is God brigade can't see through a bit of constructive criticism in here. Never could and never will.

Yes everybody changes, and the music changes. People change blah, blah.

We understand that

But that is not actually the point.

U2 used to give a shit about their fans.

That is the point.

 

 

Mick James.

One of the world's biggest U2 fans.

 

 

 

 

Don't you think sometimes the membership could be an advantage for buying tickets.  For example, a GA ticket on a reseller site like stub hub can be  up to 5 or 6x or more than the face value. In that case you would be saving money. In the past I have tried to buy GA tickets for a show after using my 4 tickets from the presale and wanted to see another show and  I didnt succeed. It is worth it if you  know the band would perform in your town and you wanted tickets > Obviously now that's not a give, cuz  now they do everything in a weird backwards  way, and announce the first night of the US tour leg  last and then it seems people get cheated in a way because they thought that u2 wouldnt be in their town and so they bought tickets to another show. that is very annoying. i dont remember it being like that in the past.  am i correct?

Hi mate.

 

Considering they seem to be bypassing Australia, it kinda gives very little value to my 2 presale codes.

 

I got tix to the Giants Stadium shows at about 2 x face value from StubHub. Great seats and I didn't mind, because what's an extra $200 when I was flying to the opposite side of the planet to see my fav band?

 

Mate I hope you understand we're not just here bashing U2.  I assure you me, Basher, Mac and the others are some of the biggest, most forgiving fans there ever was.

 

But would you be happier too if they just paid someone to run this site like a proper fan club?

You know competions, exclusives -  you know a real reason to be in the club.

We can chat for free, and easily find pics of Bono with his shirt of (hi girls!) on google.

 

Is it wrong to want the best band to have the best fansite?

 

We're upset because it's not a new thing.  Many have spent a lot of cash subscribing for years, and the site has never been run properly at any point.

That's a bummer.

 

Cheers

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I'm just thinking to myself..isn't everyone greedy in their own little  way? everyone wants what they want, when they want it....obviously, im talking about the average person  not the clergy who take vows of poverty. just people in general- average person to the celebs and the musicians. aren't we all a bit selfish in our daily lives? except for certain few of us, everyone is out to please #1 and their families.

If that's how you personally want to justify all this, fine.

 

I personally expect a bit more from U2.

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I only use the General Forum and  All About U2 and they´re not playing in Ireland this year, so I´m not thinking of renewing, especially because many who were paying members like I used to be until 2 days ago, didn´t get tickets even though they had pre-sale codes last year.

The advertisement on this site is a bit too much on your (or my) face, for my taste, but the forum has improved. I no longer see bullies around and I hear Zootician is gone, which I´m not convinced, but at least if he´s around he´s not bothering me.

Finally, the shop is mostly targeted to Americans and I´m not American. The prices are in dollars. There are other currencies in the world and I dislike the fact that the International forum is always on the bottom of the page. It´s not very welcoming. There should be free forums for all the languages in the planet as U2 are an international band.

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