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Bonohood
']I only use the General Forum and the All About U2 and they´re not playing in Ireland this year, so I´m not thinking of renewing, especially because many who were paying members like I used to be until 2 days ago, didn´t get tickets even though they had pre-sale codes last year.

The advertisement on this site is a bit too much on your (or my) face, for my taste, but the forum has improved. I no longer see bullies around and I hear Zootician is gone, which I´m not convinced, but at least if he´s around he´s not bothering me.

Hi mate,

 

the forum is certainly back on track.  I realy enjoy talking to folks in here.

But it's the people that make the forum.

 

So basically WE generate the content that's worth coming to this website for

 

U2 should be paying us $50 each to be subscribing to US!!!

 

hi mick!!

i wouldnt mind getting the 50 bucks!!

but i cant judge this site since i don have too much experience with others. i just didnt wanna miss another u2 concert and a colleague advised me to get a membership cause that worked out very well for her during vertigo-tour. hey! i even took an internet-admission just for it!! (aint that a real fan???) i came across this site once before, while surfing on a friends pc, but had no idea you could subscribe or anything....

so yes, my main purpose was getting tix, which i did (using 2 presale-codes) and i started to visit the zoo to read how the presale works and read experiences from the fans using it for the first ones goin on sale. then came across some interesting discussions and met some goofy-zooladies... and i'm happy i made it in here all those months ago.

but sure, i would like there to be more; special stuff for us! it would encourage me to renew once the tour is over... i admit that!

think you all made your complaines very clear and little bashing happened, lol! i like that....seems to be the new vibe... now if only we could get this new vibe to lit the ones in charge ... wink.gif

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There's been a lot of talk about this old band.  They are not a rebel band.  They are just greedy, bloody greedy.

 

I don't see how you can state that "U2 are becoming greedy".  They've been a greedy band since Rattle and Hum.  Even Larry said back then, and I quote: "we f*cked up".  They did.  They got too greedy and it kinda backfired on them.  They kept themselves in check through Achtung Baby and Zooropa.  They spent more time touring and making excellent music than anything else in the years from '91 to '93.  But then when POP came out, they went back to "we f*cked up"... how many singles were released for the POP Album? The answer is rhetorical.  What matters is that they released more than enough and each song was released in at least 2 formats.  Why?  Greed:  More singles, more money. The same happened with every subsequent album since then.  What has been worse in recent times, is now they bring out different album formats.  Some of you go out and buy the different formats because you want every conceivable memorabilia that is available.  The band knows there are fans like this and so it's in their best greedy interests to exploit them. 

 

Understand this - the band are just getting greedier, not that they are "becoming greedy" because they have been greedy for many years now.

 

Use this to your advantage - A band is only as strong as it's fans.  If the fans stop buying, the band will realise they have "f*cked up".  You can help them - STOP BUYING A SUBSCRIPTION TO U2.COM because a fansite should be FREE.

hi mummy! i see you're on a mission here!

but frankly, i cant see anything wrong with bringing out more singles, or differnet formats. i even think its a way to get people to buy cd's again instead of just download them for free. i know some think thats greedy too.... but hey, everyone of us likes to get paid for their work?!

no one becomes a succesful artist in order NOT to make money... so i don mind ... (i do mind celebrities getting paid outrageous amounts - singers, actors and sportsmen... but thats modern society being fucked up and having sett weird priorities)

and its a little weird saying u2 produces all these formats cause they know the 'poor' fans 're gonna buy it... okay, i don buy it either, but i've never been the collecting type... its a hobby, and if people have the spare money and wanna use it for these things... i cant see how thats like being exploited?!

other fans travel the world to see the band play abroad, i just go as far as A'dam and paris, but hey! thats a personal choice and another way to spend your money on this band...

and i don think the OP worries bout this, the main question here is: do you get ernough value for your money here and do U2 still care for the fans? and maybe there isnt just one, true answer to that... depends on what you think youre entitled too....

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heya! yeah interesting points have been brought up!

 

maybe bash, it might be interesting to see what the mods can say on the issue. is there any way the mods can solve certain problems. sometimes its hard to speak to the right people, but i think when people say this site has nothing to do with the band, i think thats wrong. it is the site adam posted his videos. so some band member does like to give the fans something exciting to talk about, even it is a few seconds of home made vids. adam didnt post them anywhere else apart from here, or got someone to post them on here for him.

 

i supose on evidence of the band really caring about the fans is that they put £30 tickets for the tour. quite cheap if you ask me bash! but where were those seats? nosebleed jobs? i dont know. yeah he says thanks to us for given them a great life and its good to hear, but they are all multi-millionares now and simpy can live great lives without making another penny.

 

and no offence to anyone, but people say they like to come here and chat, well what is wrong with chatting with your real friends which doesnt cost anything in the first place?

 

the way i feel is i pay by sub, waiting for a gift, only to find the main news page lags, read threads about bono's hair, and once in a while see a vid, which normally is a load of bollocks.

wow....i certainly have taken alot of sh*t for the Bono's hair thread! Just to let you all know...my tongue was planted firmly in cheek. 

  Regarding the subscription. I've only resubbed yearly...ever since I was screwed out of tickets for the vertigo tour after I let my propaganda membership lapse. I wouldn't resub more than once in a year no matter what they were giving away. I've also not paid more tha $35...so not sure about the $50 bit right now.

As far as is it worth it? To me it is because I got $55 GA tickets, and seats right behind the stage for $55 that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. I don't pay $250 for tickts. Nobody is worth that......

I love the zoo tour cd's, the go home t-shirt, and the slane cd's.

I've only joined one other fan club...Rolling stones .com for $100...and it was such an utter ripoff that this one seems like an absolute bargain.

  AS far as the band being greedy...of course they are. But it's not just them..it's the whole corporate machine. There aren't many Kurt Cobains around...and that might be a good thing.......

  And as far as Bono's pontificating. I think he means well..........but did he really think we wanted to see that Desmond TuTu clip???

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Why can't "Bono" a very famous "Star", in down here Realm terms, to me he is a "star" in higher Realm terms,

sit with two young ladies, basically children, youth in his laps, why must everyone assume that he is spiritually corrupted or is somekind of "ill intentioned Man, to do this with some corrupted intentions. Why can't you believe that he is just taking a picture with fans of U2 and that he remains constant in his personality, his true self, the way he really is, why must people always think the worst. And about his marriage, I know how difficult it can get to be trying to keep a family together when there are "women" who do not respect the santity of a married man or his wife, who is a woman like the rest of humanity, my parents taught all of us, to respect ourselves and respect the feelings of other women, even strangers. I often think, that it must be extremely difficult for Ali, "Bono"s wife to deal with a spouse who is so famous, women "drooling" as some calll it, for him, his person, why can't people just love him with PURE LOVE, a kind of love that does not stain him, or alter his personal state with his family, why everything has to be "lust", desire to possess Carnal, its a human weakness that can cost us our very own souls. Even in love making, God made it so, that humans who practive the art of spiritual cleanliness, will live God, not just say they believe in God, We must fight "lust" carnal desires which are inappropiate and God is my witness, I am not going to allow myself to feel "lust" for a man that has trillions of women, man and all the others in between desiring him as a Man when he is Married. He has to be so strong in the spirit to withstand the power that it takes to fight the worldly temptations, and it must be difficult, unless he is a Live God Man type, to stay bound to ONE wife, when the world is thrown at his feet. I swear, it is this Inner Pressure of his soul, that sometimes makes me cry, scream of sadness, the thought of a spirit being bound and desiring to be free, free the self, learn and grow, while enjoying his wife and family and be happy in this state of his soul. In this case, I would say:  Think like spanish man do, everything out the door is a "good time kind of thing" everything inside the door, that is where your truth resides. Up hold his family, but the pressures of these women out the door, harrassing the man, calling, trying to run over their wives with the kids inside, well, it happened to me already, being harrassed at 3 am by some illegal woman trying to break my marriage; (today, I would wack her if she even dared to come by) and continues trying to get information on me, that fool, and then, after the men live their wives in some very well known case 16 months, and perhaps, after another woman given birth to his cheating self, and who works at the same company which is evil, that man wants you to be there for him, after you've gone thru cold winters with no heat, grabbing a sister's husband to turn on your furnace, repair your home, having to suffer in hell, even going thru a divorce, he suddenly wants you to help him, be there for him, this is crazy and evil. Right now, I am close to dying for what I know, I am sick and suffering seeying how people think one has no feelings here. Well, I want to tell you, that women should respect a married man and or woman, that families are hurting because of the lack of morals and respect for the santity of God. That many think there is no God. But, I know there is one and he is all over us and we can tap into him anytime we want.  The pressures of Bono's soul can kill me if you ask me. I do my rosaries, and I pray for him, his wife, the children and everything that is of him, but if it comes to a day when they decide to part, I wash my hand of that one. Because I feel only clean feelings for him and all that is of him, including his family. I don't envy him or anyone, I just wish people respect the family. Children suffer too much in divorce. I say to mean, what ever you do, keep it to your self, don't try to be so macho and bring it home to the family. Don't get lost out the door of your home. Home is first, your wife and children are first, and no one out the door cares for your wife, children and family. They want you and they destroy your family with no remorse.  So, All can I do is pray for him and his family as I do 2-3 times a day. Bono is not a saint, but we can support him and his cause and join him, I like that idea. Eliminate poverty and injustice. He surely does everything that is just and right and I love him for being himself and I get to learn a lot of new things with him traveling and doing his labour of love. I enjoy Bono he is ONE man in the Universe that I see  on Top of Mountain, a top I want to reach to meet him, somehow, someday. I am not ashamed to ask him for help so I can meet him, time is not on my side because of this painful slow killer, but I shall continue to ask him to help me meet him. Why not, I my car brakes, being that I don't have a husband, I ask the first man I see to assist me, Man was created for us women first.

 

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[quote name='barbara1 wrote:


mummy']There's been a lot of talk about this old band.  They are not a rebel band.  They are just greedy, bloody greedy.

 

I don't see how you can state that "U2 are
becoming
greedy".  They've been a greedy band since Rattle and Hum.  Even Larry said back then, and I quote: "we f*cked up".  They did.  They got too greedy and it kinda backfired on them.  They kept themselves in check through Achtung Baby and Zooropa.  They spent more time touring and making excellent music than anything else in the years from '91 to '93.  But then when POP came out, they went back to "we f*cked up"... how many singles were released for the POP Album? The answer is rhetorical.  What matters is that they released more than enough and each song was released in at least 2 formats.  Why?  Greed:  More singles, more money. The same happened with every subsequent album since then.  What has been worse in recent times, is now they bring out different album formats.  Some of you go out and buy the different formats because you want every conceivable memorabilia that is available.  The band knows there are fans like this and so it's in their best greedy interests to exploit them. 

 

Understand this
- the band are just getting greedier, not that they are "becoming greedy" because they have been greedy for many years now.

 

Use this to your advantage
- A band is only as strong as it's fans.  If the fans stop buying, the band will realise they have "f*cked up".  You can help them - STOP BUYING A SUBSCRIPTION TO U2.COM because a fansite should be FREE.

hi mummy! i see you're on a mission here!

but frankly, i cant see anything wrong with bringing out more singles, or differnet formats. i even think its a way to get people to buy cd's again instead of just download them for free. i know some think thats greedy too.... but hey, everyone of us likes to get paid for their work?!

no one becomes a succesful artist in order NOT to make money... so i don mind ... (i do mind celebrities getting paid outrageous amounts - singers, actors and sportsmen... but thats modern society being fucked up and having sett weird priorities)

and its a little weird saying u2 produces all these formats cause they know the 'poor' fans 're gonna buy it... okay, i don buy it either, but i've never been the collecting type... its a hobby, and if people have the spare money and wanna use it for these things... i cant see how thats like being exploited?!

other fans travel the world to see the band play abroad, i just go as far as A'dam and paris, but hey! thats a personal choice and another way to spend your money on this band...

and i don think the OP worries bout this, the main question here is: do you get ernough value for your money here and do U2 still care for the fans? and maybe there isnt just one, true answer to that... depends on what you think youre entitled too....

I see where you are coming from babs.  What I love about arguments is that for every one, there is a counter-argument.  It's a bit like action and reaction. wink.gif

 

I guess I used to be one of those fans who used to collect everything that U2 put out in music terms. I'd buy all their albums and all their singles and then I'd buy the unofficial live stuff just so that I had every piece of music that they ever issued, even if any of their songs were a whole load of shite. But then I started to get pissed off with the huge amount of single formats, the so-called limited edition singles, the so-called limited edition albums and the so-called limited edition DVDs.  Now I buy nothing except the main album and even then I'm starting to wonder would I even buy them anymore.

 

On a note regarding "limited edition" or "special edition" or any other kind of "edition":  I don't believe it exists anymore since the invention of P2P software.  Such software removed the word "limit" from any form of media.

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MacFoley']heya! yeah interesting points have been brought up!

 

maybe bash, it might be interesting to see what the mods can say on the issue. is there any way the mods can solve certain problems. sometimes its hard to speak to the right people, but i think when people say this site has nothing to do with the band, i think thats wrong. it is the site adam posted his videos. so some band member does like to give the fans something exciting to talk about, even it is a few seconds of home made vids. adam didnt post them anywhere else apart from here, or got someone to post them on here for him.

 

i supose on evidence of the band really caring about the fans is that they put £30 tickets for the tour. quite cheap if you ask me bash! but where were those seats? nosebleed jobs? i dont know. yeah he says thanks to us for given them a great life and its good to hear, but they are all multi-millionares now and simpy can live great lives without making another penny.

 

and no offence to anyone, but people say they like to come here and chat, well what is wrong with chatting with your real friends which doesnt cost anything in the first place?

 

the way i feel is i pay by sub, waiting for a gift, only to find the main news page lags, read threads about bono's hair, and once in a while see a vid, which normally is a load of bollocks.

wow....i certainly have taken alot of sh*t for the Bono's hair thread! Just to let you all know...my tongue was planted firmly in cheek. 

  Regarding the subscription. I've only resubbed yearly...ever since I was screwed out of tickets for the vertigo tour after I let my propaganda membership lapse. I wouldn't resub more than once in a year no matter what they were giving away. I've also not paid more tha $35...so not sure about the $50 bit right now.

As far as is it worth it? To me it is because I got $55 GA tickets, and seats right behind the stage for $55 that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. I don't pay $250 for tickts. Nobody is worth that......

I love the zoo tour cd's, the go home t-shirt, and the slane cd's.

I've only joined one other fan club...Rolling stones .com for $100...and it was such an utter ripoff that this one seems like an absolute bargain.

  AS far as the band being greedy...of course they are. But it's not just them..it's the whole corporate machine. There aren't many Kurt Cobains around...and that might be a good thing.......

  And as far as Bono's pontificating. I think he means well..........but did he really think we wanted to see that Desmond TuTu clip???

Now there was one gift that was good the t-shirt it should be more things like that lithos t-shirts things that are not easily replicated.

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