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have you thought how people are hacking into these places so easly? I mean surely the USA millatery should have total virus firewall security!

 

Also this has been going on since 2006 it's only now the USA are actually doing something??

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

 

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Founding

 

The wikileaks.org domain name was registered on 4 October 2006.[5] The website was unveiled, and published its first document in December 2006.[32][33] The site claims to have been "founded by Chinese dissidents, journalists, mathematicians and start-up company technologists, from the US, Taiwan, Europe, Australia and South Africa".[4]

 

The creators of WikiLeaks have not been formally identified.[34] It has been represented in public since January 2007 by Julian Assange and others. Assange describes himself as a member of WikiLeaks' advisory board.[35] News reports in The Australian have called Assange the "founder of WikiLeaks".[36] According to Wired magazine, a volunteer said that Assange described himself in a private conversation as "the heart and soul of this organisation, its founder, philosopher, spokesperson, original coder, organiser, financier, and all the rest".[37] As of June 2009[update], the site had over 1,200 registered volunteers[4] and listed an advisory board comprising Assange, Phillip Adams, Wang Dan, C. J. Hinke, Ben Laurie, Tashi Namgyal Khamsitsang, Xiao Qiang, Chico Whitaker and Wang Youcai.[38] Despite appearing on the list Khamsitsang said that while he received an e-mail from WikiLeaks, he had never agreed to be an advisor.[39] Adams said he'd also never met Assange or been asked for any advice and suggested that other members of the board hadn't either.[38]

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Cybersecurity is an incredibly complex equation, and new holes open up as soon old ones are plugged.  The pentagon and white house get probed hundreds if not thousands of times a day; US companies have lost billions upon billions in intellectual property.  The security systems will continue to evolve and become more sophisticated, and artificial intelligence ought to make it possible for them to automatically counter-attack.  But this will take time.   There is likely to also be a revamp of the whole intelligence classification system in the US as a result of this, which is appropriate.

But, again, these cables are only classified as "secret," which is the lowest classification possible, and one which hundreds of thousands of people hold. Nothing super critical to the U.S. carries just a "secret" classification.   Like I have said before, nothing in these cable is all that compromising for the US, and just about everything is common knowledge to anyone who bothers to keep up with news and foreign affairs.  The damage is in the diminished environment of confidentiality that diplomacy depends on.  And the critical facilities list probably should have been classified higher than it was.

The wikileaks folks have done terrible damage, but not in the way they intended or to whom they intended.  They truly are idiots as well as malevolent anarchists.

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Cybersecurity is an incredibly complex equation, and new holes open up as soon old ones are plugged.  The pentagon and white house get probed hundreds if not thousands of times a day; US companies have lost billions upon billions in intellectual property.  The security systems will continue to evolve and become more sophisticated, and artificial intelligence ought to make it possible for them to automatically counter-attack.  But this will take time.   There is likely to also be a revamp of the whole intelligence classification system in the US as a result of this, which is appropriate.

But, again, these cables are only classified as "secret," which is the lowest classification possible, and one which hundreds of thousands of people hold. Nothing super critical to the U.S. carries just a "secret" classification.   Like I have said before, nothing in these cable is all that compromising for the US, and just about everything is common knowledge to anyone who bothers to keep up with news and foreign affairs.  The damage is in the diminished environment of confidentiality that diplomacy depends on.  And the critical facilities list probably should have been classified higher than it was.

The wikileaks folks have done terrible damage, but not in the way they intended or to whom they intended.  They truly are idiots as well as malevolent anarchists.

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Cybersecurity is an incredibly complex equation, and new holes open up as soon old ones are plugged.  The pentagon and white house get probed hundreds if not thousands of times a day; US companies have lost billions upon billions in intellectual property.  The security systems will continue to evolve and become more sophisticated, and artificial intelligence ought to make it possible for them to automatically counter-attack.  But this will take time.   There is likely to also be a revamp of the whole intelligence classification system in the US as a result of this, which is appropriate.

But, again, these cables are only classified as "secret," which is the lowest classification possible, and one which hundreds of thousands of people hold. Nothing super critical to the U.S. carries just a "secret" classification.   Like I have said before, nothing in these cable is all that compromising for the US, and just about everything is common knowledge to anyone who bothers to keep up with news and foreign affairs.  The damage is in the diminished environment of confidentiality that diplomacy depends on.  And the critical facilities list probably should have been classified higher than it was.

The wikileaks folks have done terrible damage, but not in the way they intended or to whom they intended.  They truly are idiots as well as malevolent anarchists.

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But, to be clear--wikileaks is not the result of hacking. It is the result of a low level military member who downloaded classified cables and gave the info to wikileaks. He is in prison for espionage now. Where he will stay.

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But, to be clear--wikileaks is not the result of hacking. It is the result of a low level military member who downloaded classified cables and gave the info to wikileaks. He is in prison for espionage now. Where he will stay.

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But, to be clear--wikileaks is not the result of hacking. It is the result of a low level military member who downloaded classified cables and gave the info to wikileaks. He is in prison for espionage now. Where he will stay.

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But, to be clear--wikileaks is not the result of hacking. It is the result of a low level military member who downloaded classified cables and gave the info to wikileaks. He is in prison for espionage now. Where he will stay.
but aren't they still getting them plus he'd still have to go through security to actually get top level military infomation

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But, to be clear--wikileaks is not the result of hacking. It is the result of a low level military member who downloaded classified cables and gave the info to wikileaks. He is in prison for espionage now. Where he will stay.

But aren't they still getting them??

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[quote name='Claire T wrote:


security_in_anonymity']But, to be clear--wikileaks is not the result of hacking. It is the result of a low level military member who downloaded classified cables and gave the info to wikileaks. He is in prison for espionage now. Where he will stay.

But aren't they still getting them??

 

 

Getting whom?  The wikileaks folks--or at least their founder Assange?  

I certainly hope so.  The Justice Department is looking very carefully at how to best charge him.  He has broken several federal laws including receiving and disseminating stolen government property.  But they are also looking very hard at the Espionage Act.  

This all requires careful legal maneuvering, because so many are trying to make this about free speech or about press freedoms.  The press freedom folks claim that charging Assange would be chilling to more traditional news outlets and stifle the freedom of the press.  But those arguing this, will have to first convince the courts that Assange's whole-sale dump of classified material onto the web without any editorial oversight, or further research, or contextualization, or even consideration of the implications of releasing such information.... is still "journalism" deserving of the same press protections.    That will be a hard case to make.  Journalist have a very high creed and ethic that they are professionally bound to adhere to.  Assange isn't even close enough to this standard to spit on it.

There is also a question of extradition, and what country he ends up in between now and then, and whether that country will extradite him to the U.S. once he is charged.  Currently he is holed up  at the mansion of a British journalist, and is  on "house arrest" for the next two months.  Meanwhile, Sweden is still trying to get him back to answer to the rape allegations.

I imagine that new laws will also be passed in the US (and other countries too) so that the courts will have strong tools to prosecute such cases in the future.  For example, by making it a federal crime to reveal the identities of informants.  You know... an entire operation had to be launched to try and go out and rescue those people in Afghanistan who were cooperating with NATO and US forces, and who were exposed by Assange.  The operation will attempt to find and get these people to safety before the Taliban cut their heads off--and the heads of everyone they have ever known.  Now, how on earth does the world expect terrorist and insurgent elements in Afghanistan to be pacified if the Afghan population can no longer trust that if they risk their lives to help take back their country, they won't be outed by some scum bag on the internet?

Assange is a very bad person.

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