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The bottom line here is simple. Obey the rules. It's easy. It's a no brainer. If you are that adolescent that you don't have the self-control to obey the rules - and it really doesn't matter if "culturally I don't like the rule" or "a lot of people do this these days," or "but so & so is a great friend and a great person." Big deal.

 

Nor is it just about "personal clashes." The people defending Gibbo - many of whose posts I've enjoyed over the years - simply need to get past it. No offense, but these discussions remind me of junior high days.

 

It's an internet discussion board! It has rules. Abide by them. In my life - though I don't use it very much at all these days except to myself in difficult circumstances - I've used the f-word as colorfully as anyone on here. But I know it's not something to be done on such a board. So - rules the rule.

 

The honorable person simply says - "Well, I messed up. Sorry. Will try to do better next time." Gibbo knows how to tweak someone and knows quite well when he is seeking to get under someone's skin. It's clear what he was trying to do here and, friend or not, it's poor character by him. Justifiable anger or not - bad form on his part, simple and plain. If you don't have the humility to say, "I'm sorry, should have behaved better" - and if you are cussing on someone's FB wall - then you have the problem. End of argument. Indefensible.

 

There's a number of things that bothered me about U2.com which is why I did not renew my paid subscription this year (including the "reward" for the subscription); but, following posting rules and having a level of decorum on a discussion board really doesn't take very much self-control for an adult.

YAWN.....NO BOTHER POINTDEXTER........

 

i'll write what i want when i want and if you deem this to be immature big fat hairy deal you can stick by whatever rules you want and be a good little boy and get a nice pat on the head from teacher. i also love the way people like you use the phrase "end of argument" like someone made you commander -in0chief of the whole universe.

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Really? This is a big deal? Swearing? Someone crush your cigerettes and now you wanna cry? Someone comes in and disagrees with popular opinion and gets chased out, no one says anything about the elitism, someone gets banned for swearing and breaking rules and OMGHITLERASZZZZZ!!!!!! ? Some of y'all need to grow up.

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Nope, because THEY DONT POST in here. What you do outside of the ZOO is your business, what they do is theirs. For the record, we have had some crew come and post and I did have to speak to them. And yeah, I would tell them [u2] to tone it down, but as I have not seen them in here for a bit, there is no need.

 

 

Realy????? You would tell U2 to tone it down??????roll.gif

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Nope, because THEY DONT POST in here. What you do outside of the ZOO is your business, what they do is theirs. For the record, we have had some crew come and post and I did have to speak to them. And yeah, I would tell them [u2] to tone it down, but as I have not seen them in here for a bit, there is no need.

 

 

Realy????? You would tell U2 to tone it down??????roll.gif

If it's needed... yes, of course....

 

the ToS doesn't mark any exception...

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The bottom line here is simple. Obey the rules. It's easy. It's a no brainer. If you are that adolescent that you don't have the self-control to obey the rules - and it really doesn't matter if "culturally I don't like the rule" or "a lot of people do this these days," or "but so & so is a great friend and a great person." Big deal.

 

Nor is it just about "personal clashes." The people defending Gibbo - many of whose posts I've enjoyed over the years - simply need to get past it. No offense, but these discussions remind me of junior high days.

 

It's an internet discussion board! It has rules. Abide by them. In my life - though I don't use it very much at all these days except to myself in difficult circumstances - I've used the f-word as colorfully as anyone on here. But I know it's not something to be done on such a board. So - rules the rule.

 

The honorable person simply says - "Well, I messed up. Sorry. Will try to do better next time." Gibbo knows how to tweak someone and knows quite well when he is seeking to get under someone's skin. It's clear what he was trying to do here and, friend or not, it's poor character by him. Justifiable anger or not - bad form on his part, simple and plain. If you don't have the humility to say, "I'm sorry, should have behaved better" - and if you are cussing on someone's FB wall - then you have the problem. End of argument. Indefensible.

 

There's a number of things that bothered me about U2.com which is why I did not renew my paid subscription this year (including the "reward" for the subscription); but, following posting rules and having a level of decorum on a discussion board really doesn't take very much self-control for an adult.

YAWN.....NO BOTHER POINTDEXTER........

 

i'll write what i want when i want and if you deem this to be immature big fat hairy deal you can stick by whatever rules you want and be a good little boy and get a nice pat on the head from teacher. i also love the way people like you use the phrase "end of argument" like someone made you commander -in0chief of the whole universe.

Basher, you do let your cage get rattled... I think its a Celtic thing, shared by Scots, Geordies, Liverpudlians, Mancunians, and of course the Irish. We either want a scrap or a hug.

 

We can all write what we want, whenever we want, you are quite right there. A problem arises though when someone writes something that violates the Terms that they signed up for when they agreed to participate in a forum. Not just this forum, just about any forum in existance as far as I am aware of has to have some kind of policing, and enforcement of guidelines, otherwise anarchy prevails... eventually, and it dies a death eventually.

There are some completely un-moderated forums out there that exist as the exception to the norm, of that I am sure. But unfortunately (for some), this isn't one of them.

In response to another thread over on paid side - http://community.u2.com/topic/22014 - the issue of free speech and following forum guidelines is being discussed, and I chipped in with some thoughts there... what I was trying to say there seems to apply to this thread too, so I will re-post here the relevant bits.

 

I got banned myself from a forum a couple of years ago, (totally U2-unrelated), well actually I banned myself after a strongly worded warning from the Mod there. I was sure I was in the right, and tried to be civil, but perhaps, in hindsight I was a little aggressive in my posts on that particular forum - (I was actually trying to warn folk on the forum that someone was trolling, but attempting to befriend individual members to get them on their side, whilst having (to me) a very obvious agenda that was leaning towards being homophobic.
Compared to the Zoo, the forum I am talking about was very tame....

Thing is, even though I was convinced (and still am!) I was in the right, and was defending someone else who I thought was getting a rough ride from the troll, I actually went against that forums guidelines and as such, took what was coming my way. On the chin, as were.
Its wasn't the end of the world, I am sure we all at some point have posted something we wake up the next day and regret.
I made the decision that that forum had rules and regs that I could no longer agree with, so I left.
I then actually started something else covering the same subject matter, and ended up with 50 times more members than the original forum, but that's a whole story of its own...

So whats clear here is not the fact someone dropped an f-bomb or two, its more about respect of a forum guidelines, etiquette and the need for us mods to implement those guidelines, with a common sense approach, and a chance for whoever makes the questionable posts to cool it (usually by way of a friendly PM or 3), and if that doesn't work, because the OP is so annoyed or on a good rant, or even (yes it does happen), just had a few bevvies too many that day - then a week, or a month, or even a permanent suspension / banning is implemented. The latter is rarely used, and its never the case of a dictatorship approach, these things are always done in consultation with other mods, admin, and in some cases Site management.
A weeks suspension is no more than a cooling off period, and a months suspension, gives the OP a little longer to reflect if they really wants to remain part of any forum, and its guidelines.

I challenge anyone to join any forum out there, not just U2 forums and try and have a go at the Mods, even a backhanded dig will usually get you booted even before your siggy has had time to upload...
I would argue that here, in the Zoo, you really do want to get yourself a ban if it ever comes to that (some folk strangely get off on the kudos they attract through being able to shout loud and proud 'Ha I was banned! what a joke! I am innocent! I did nuffin' guvnor! honest!...... )
And some people just like to push boundaries and challenge any perceived authority figure, 'cos that is what they like to do. That in itself is not a bad thing, Bono said only recently "We are only as good as our greatest arguements" - but having a civil discussion, within accepted guidelines, and taking an opposite polar view to someone is one thing, often can be a great thing - but direct unfair criticism, abuse and virtual finger-pointing by any member to another (including mods) is another matter completely.

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In a nutshell, follow the rules, post in accordance with the rules, and let the mods enforce the rules.

 

Now, can we go back to talking about something more interesting than who is banned, how long they are banned and why they are banned. It doesn't matter because the reality of the matter is, no matter what nobody gets banned, U2 will always be at the forefront of their very own website.

 

Did anyone see Ali on the telly the other night?

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In a nutshell, follow the rules, post in accordance with the rules, and let the mods enforce the rules.

 

Now, can we go back to talking about something more interesting than who is banned, how long they are banned and why they are banned. It doesn't matter because the reality of the matter is, no matter what nobody gets banned, U2 will always be at the forefront of their very own website.

 

Did anyone see Ali on the telly the other night?

roll.gifroll.gifroll.gifsorry new poster but I have to laugh at this ..was beginning to feel I was reading the same book over and over!.....the people who are banned or whatever accept it ...pease close this thread!roll.gifroll.gifroll.gif
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