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Oh, come on! It's hardly as loud as a concert by The Who, surely?! And they don't even mention the locals who got a free gig from their lounge! Reminds me of living in Reading, and failing to get any sleep while the headline acts are playing at Reading Festival on the last weekend of August... 


U2 breached Suncorp Stadium noise limit with 100-decibel-plus 360 Degree World Tour concert

May 28, 2011

Source: Courier Mail

by Patrick Lion

Reports obtained by The Sunday Mail show Irish supergroup U2 exceeded the regulated 100-decibel limit inside the venue at one of their two 360 Degree World Tour concerts in Brisbane last year.

The group notched 105 decibels, but will not be fined for the breach, unlike the $50,000 penalty the band received from their hometown of Dublin earlier in the tour.

The reports also reveal one of the five external sites Stadiums Queensland is required to audit is still failing to accurately record noise levels and recorded excess levels for U2 as well as Bon Jovi a few nights later.

Tens of thousands of people live around the stadium in some of Queensland's most expensive suburbs such as Paddington, Auchenflower, Red Hill and Milton.

The flaws come five years after a problem with the "skewed" site at 105 Hale St was discovered and recommended to be fixed, and two years after Sports Minister Phil Reeves failed to explain why they had not been fixed.

The reports show acoustics contractor Cardno Consulting had measuring difficulties at the noisy Hale St site, where the same problems occurred during concerts by Robbie Williams in 2006.

The stadium had 21 complaints and three compliments over the two U2 nights last December but only one complaint for Bon Jovi.

"There were some slight exceedences on night one and none on the second night," the report said of U2's performances.

Mr Reeves yesterday said the problem site would be reviewed next year.

But Opposition sports spokesman David Gibson said the five-year delay was another example of poor management.

"It is disgraceful that not only has the Government failed to fix the 'skewed' monitoring station but that they also fail to adhere to or enforce their own regulations," he said.

© Sunday Mail, 2011.

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I don't know why this is headlines. This is very common. The only time it should make headlines is when the local police are threatening to arrest Joe O'Herlihy for overly exceeding the dB limits for a certain length of time during the show. It's usually enforced for outdoor venues.

I'm not sure what the process is in Ireland, but in certain parts of the U.S., the FOH engineer would be advised to turn down either the overall level, or certain frequencies that's closely monitored. If he refuses, then the venue's production manager can call the local law enforcement. They monitor the levels at FOH (mixing area) and in the surrounding neighborhood (where most of the complaints occur). Personally, I've monitored levels in the neighborhood, around the venues. It's funny how those residence are selective in complaining. If it's a band they like, they'll set up camp on their front porch, and tell me to tell the venue to turn it up. If it's a band they don't like, they'll call the cops as soon as they hear a note. Apart from monitoring levels, in the neighborhood, I also have to list down other noises that can be heard, such as local traffic. Usually the band pays for violating the ordinance. Some bands try to get around this by doing modifications to their P.A. or their mix. Bruce Springsteen's crew does this by not using any subs (since the bass drives up the dB levels)....they don't need it for their music style. Linkin Park's engineer plays with the dynamics of his mix to achieve this.

On No Doubt's last tour, their FOH engineer was almost arrested for overly exceeding the dB limits, and refused to do so, until the cops arrived. Another one was Matisyahu's old FOH engineer. His console was glowing red all over the place, and refused to turn it down. They opened up for 311, and so their (311) audio crew was pissed at him. He managed to cause the P.A. amps to go into protect mode (auto shut down, twice).

However, I still think Motorhead's show is still the loudest I've heard....115 dB, indoors.

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I don't know why this is headlines. This is very common. The only time it should make headlines is when the local police are threatening to arrest Joe O'Herlihy for overly exceeding the dB limits for a certain length of time during the show. It's usually enforced for outdoor venues.

I'm not sure what the process is in Ireland, but in certain parts of the U.S., the FOH engineer would be advised to turn down either the overall level, or certain frequencies that's closely monitored. If he refuses, then the venue's production manager can call the local law enforcement. They monitor the levels at FOH (mixing area) and in the surrounding neighborhood (where most of the complaints occur). Personally, I've monitored levels in the neighborhood, around the venues. It's funny how those residence are selective in complaining. If it's a band they like, they'll set up camp on their front porch, and tell me to tell the venue to turn it up. If it's a band they don't like, they'll call the cops as soon as they hear a note. Apart from monitoring levels, in the neighborhood, I also have to list down other noises that can be heard, such as local traffic. Usually the band pays for violating the ordinance. Some bands try to get around this by doing modifications to their P.A. or their mix. Bruce Springsteen's crew does this by not using any subs (since the bass drives up the dB levels)....they don't need it for their music style. Linkin Park's engineer plays with the dynamics of his mix to achieve this.

On No Doubt's last tour, their FOH engineer was almost arrested for overly exceeding the dB limits, and refused to do so, until the cops arrived. Another one was Matisyahu's old FOH engineer. His console was glowing red all over the place, and refused to turn it down. They opened up for 311, and so their (311) audio crew was pissed at him. He managed to cause the P.A. amps to go into protect mode (auto shut down, twice).

However, I still think Motorhead's show is still the loudest I've heard....115 dB, indoors.

Pendulum at Wembley Arena was the loudest I've been to - the bass was properly crackly!

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Really it was just a local Aussie fluff piece.

 

In all fairness the boys were let off being fined and Suncorp is right near some residentials.

 

I imagine if you were trying to get your bub to sleep that night it would have been a pain, but dems the breaks when you live near a stadium.

 

We cop it a lot at the casino I work at - locals complaining to council about bands/DJs/parties etc.

 

But the way I see it is - the casino was here first, and you bought a unit right next door after the fact, you should probably expect some noise.

 

It's like buying near an airport and then complaining about aircraft noise.

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Really it was just a local Aussie fluff piece.

 

In all fairness the boys were let off being fined and Suncorp is right near some residentials.

 

I imagine if you were trying to get your bub to sleep that night it would have been a pain, but dems the breaks when you live near a stadium.

 

We cop it a lot at the casino I work at - locals complaining to council about bands/DJs/parties etc.

 

But the way I see it is - the casino was here first, and you bought a unit right next door after the fact, you should probably expect some noise.

 

It's like buying near an airport and then complaining about aircraft noise.

Agree with you. A few years, after one of the 20,000 seat outdoor venues around here, was opened, they decided to build several apartment complex. On top of that, there's a busy interstate road that runs through it, a Hard Rock Casino and a local airport (light aircraft) next to it....and these residence have the nerve to complain. The county allows a 102 dB A weight level at FOH...and closely monitor freq. 63Hz, 250 Hz, 500Hz, and 1kHz...C weighted. Curfew is at 11pm on Mon. to Thurs. and midnight on Fri., Sat, Sun. If they exceed the time cut off, then the venue can shut down power, with no questions asked....law enforcement to back them up.
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[quote name='bflorendo wrote:


mick james']Really it was just a local Aussie fluff piece.

 

In all fairness the boys were let off being fined and Suncorp is right near some residentials.

 

I imagine if you were trying to get your bub to sleep that night it would have been a pain, but dems the breaks when you live near a stadium.

 

We cop it a lot at the casino I work at - locals complaining to council about bands/DJs/parties etc.

 

But the way I see it is - the casino was here first, and you bought a unit right next door after the fact, you should probably expect some noise.

 

It's like buying near an airport and then complaining about aircraft noise.

Agree with you. A few years, after one of the 20,000 seat outdoor venues around here, was opened, they decided to build several apartment complex. On top of that, there's a busy interstate road that runs through it, a Hard Rock Casino and a local airport (light aircraft) next to it....and these residence have the nerve to complain. The county allows a 102 dB A weight level at FOH...and closely monitor freq. 63Hz, 250 Hz, 500Hz, and 1kHz...C weighted. Curfew is at 11pm on Mon. to Thurs. and midnight on Fri., Sat, Sun. If they exceed the time cut off, then the venue can shut down power, with no questions asked....law enforcement to back them up.

It's pretty similar here.

 

I saw the venue turn the house lights on at 11pm sharp at a Nine Inch Nails gig at the Hordern in Sydney once a few years back.

 

If you want to piss off Trent Reznor and 10000 goths, turn the house lights on half way through Head Like A Hole!

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