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I am confused by this as well.  I got GA tix for MSG in NYC and I did not see a paperless option when checking out.  I chose mailed tickets for free.  Is this okay?  I hope I will not have a problem.

I Believe it is against the law in NYC to have paperless tickets

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Don't you think that once tickets go on sale for the general public that Ticketmaster will open up their ticket re-selling function on their website? Ticketmaster and U2 are trying to cut down on scalpers which I appreciate.  But I can't imagine that there won't be a way to re-sell tickets through Ticketmaster since life can get in the way of concerts sometimes. I've re-sold tickets on Ticketmaster's website when I've been unable to go to an event and it's really easy.  It's basically like Stubhub where sellers set their own prices and Ticketmaster adds a fee on top.  All transactions are done via Ticketmaster so I don't need to deliver my tickets to the buyer.  However, I think this is just Ticketmaster's way of getting more control over making a profit on the re-selling of tickets, making it harder to re-sell on Stubhub or on the street. 

 

It's a real bummer that fans can't trade these paperless tickets fan-to-fan though.  I was able to sell an extra ticket at face value to a fan once and it felt good keeping it all in the family.  I'd love to have a way to buy or sell a ticket to another fan club member. 

 

I'm crossing my fingers that this will work out, and that the locals as well as those of us who plan to travel will get the tickets that we are looking for.  Makes for a nervous waiting game.

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I've been to both baseball games and other concerts that did this. At the door, the ushers print out a small "ticket" for you to bring inside. It's different than the traditional ticket shape and paper quality but it does have the event name, date, location and seat and gate info. You won't be entirely empty handed ticket-wise!

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The tickets from the Croke Park 360 shows were the best I've seen.  Maybe it's just a European thing, but the tickets were large and very colorful.  It felt like a good old-school ticket to commemorate a cool event.   Coming from Seattle, that was a really great souvenir to bring home.  Still have it framed with some concert photos in our office. I don't think we'll be displaying this receipt slip of paper thing.  I guess call me old-fashioned.

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Looks like it's just the GA that are paperless; reserved seats aren't (despite what it initially seemed on many of the venue websites).  That said, it's a big problem that the GA are paperless for the reasons many have given.  Hopefully, the band will at least make it possible to trade them--that would solve a huge amount of problems.

 

YES LET US FANS TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I mean we have to travel now to go to them and it will be impossible to acquire multiple shows in a row in NY as they go on sale at once.  I know NY is all paper, so the easiest, but it's going to be tough everywhere else.  Why are they making it hard on us?

 

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I would argue it's not efficient at all.  I scan my ticket and I go in, done it for 20 years.  Now I have to keep a CC, carry it to the show etc.  Then I need to remember to pull it out.  Then your wife gets pregnant and you can't do GA now.  Now what do you do?  So how is paper "more efficient".  It's a 1000% PITA.  How can it not be, you are restricting freedom on the ticket.  How is a restriction "more efficient".  And how can someone say no one can argue that, when that position is destroyable.  This paperless is crushing making travel plans and putting together a U2 trip.  Now we have to come to them as they sit in a few cities and we can't get after-market tickets or even trade with fans.

Please PLEASE tell me how that is "obviously its way more efficient to have paperless tickets than paper". 

 

PLEASE I AM DOWN ON MY KNEES, tell me how to work with it since it is so efficient.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

This is laughable...  What is the difference between scanning a CC or scanning a ticket? NONE.

 

Being someone who has spent many summers and winters touring with Phish I understand the argument about touring with the band and wanting to pick up tickets the night of the show.  

You can still do this its just electronic now, TM offers the ability to sell your tickets back to the public, its up to U2 (Tour Management) if they want to allow this.  NFL has been doing it for years.

 

Back to the point of touring, for every one person who buys tickets off the street from a scalper and has a good experience there is someone who got ripped off by that same scalper either before or after.

 

Bottom line the system makes it difficult for scalpers, NOT for the fans and despite the gripes not having the souvenir from the show I am perfectly fine with it.

 

 

OK since you get this, if the time comes and you don't want to do GA how do I make a trade on u2.com?  I still haven't seen how this works to get out of a show you can't go to.  Is there just a lot of empty seats now scattered around since the show is paper?

 

 

If you purchased tickets already then log into your ticket master account, you will see two options, Sell and Transfer.  Takes the responsibility off of U2, off the fan, no hassle with PayPal and Stub hub, no shipping of tickets, clean transaction straight from the source, TM   B)

 

You may now get up off your knees, I think I answered all the questions you were begging to be answered. :D

 

Oh and forgot to mention if you have the app, your tickets will be on your phone too!  Once TM gets their act together and catch up to live nation and others you will be able to transfer tickets right from your phone to a buddy's phone with a push of a button.  49ers are doing that now.  Here too with big data analytics they will be able to capture who buys the tickets and where they end up to figure out who the scalpers are.

 

There is NO argument to the fact paperless tickets are more convenient and more efficient despite the novelty of not having the paper to put in a box and look at once a year :-)

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This is laughable...  What is the difference between scanning a CC or scanning a ticket? NONE.

Really?  Are you kidding?  So you can't go to the show now, how do you sell?  You change credit card?  You loose your job and you need the money.  Say 5% of the house has issues, that's over 1000 people who would say u r crazy NUTS to say there is no difference.

 

Please tell me the difference Zoom.  Please.

 

I would argue it's not efficient at all.  I scan my ticket and I go in, done it for 20 years.  Now I have to keep a CC, carry it to the show etc.  Then I need to remember to pull it out.  Then your wife gets pregnant and you can't do GA now.  Now what do you do?  So how is paper "more efficient".  It's a 1000% PITA.  How can it not be, you are restricting freedom on the ticket.  How is a restriction "more efficient".  And how can someone say no one can argue that, when that position is destroyable.  This paperless is crushing making travel plans and putting together a U2 trip.  Now we have to come to them as they sit in a few cities and we can't get after-market tickets or even trade with fans.

Please PLEASE tell me how that is "obviously its way more efficient to have paperless tickets than paper". 

 

PLEASE I AM DOWN ON MY KNEES, tell me how to work with it since it is so efficient.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

This is laughable...  What is the difference between scanning a CC or scanning a ticket? NONE.

 

Being someone who has spent many summers and winters touring with Phish I understand the argument about touring with the band and wanting to pick up tickets the night of the show.  

You can still do this its just electronic now, TM offers the ability to sell your tickets back to the public, its up to U2 (Tour Management) if they want to allow this.  NFL has been doing it for years.

 

Back to the point of touring, for every one person who buys tickets off the street from a scalper and has a good experience there is someone who got ripped off by that same scalper either before or after.

 

Bottom line the system makes it difficult for scalpers, NOT for the fans and despite the gripes not having the souvenir from the show I am perfectly fine with it.

 

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Great post.  Finally an idea relating to how the world works.  All these guys drooling no difference and more efficient, wow. 

 

Anyway, I can see them wanting to skim more of the after-market.  I mean things will happen to X % of people each show. How that is going to be managed is what I am talking about.  I have made maybe as high as 12 trades/tranactions with users on this site since Vertigo.  I remember being nervous the first time, and then it was no worries.

 

I mean I can't even try for a Chicago show now since I used 2 codes we have.  So now, I would usually get more Chicago and then trade those for other cities to flush out a touring season.  We have seen them 54 times and I met my wife on WIRE, the U2 fan mailing list, back in 1997.

 

So I know how it has worked in the past, and this SUCKS big time.  I mean we will see way less shows now.  And maybe that is the point.  Make the travelers not able to makes moves to acquire tix and see more shows.

 

I mean I don't know how to manage this.  I want to take 2 of our boys now to a show. I used a code, 2 tix, on Chicago 1.  Now let's say I get 4, which is what I want, to the Chicago 1.  What do I do with the other 2 I have?  I woudl love to flip those for say NY or Boston, my wife wants Boston.  My hands are tied. 

 

I can't say how pissed I am at this lock-down of tickets.  It's insane.  All this crap of lockdown to supposedly get more fans in.  I am a fan trying to get in.

Don't you think that once tickets go on sale for the general public that Ticketmaster will open up their ticket re-selling function on their website? Ticketmaster and U2 are trying to cut down on scalpers which I appreciate.  But I can't imagine that there won't be a way to re-sell tickets through Ticketmaster since life can get in the way of concerts sometimes. I've re-sold tickets on Ticketmaster's website when I've been unable to go to an event and it's really easy.  It's basically like Stubhub where sellers set their own prices and Ticketmaster adds a fee on top.  All transactions are done via Ticketmaster so I don't need to deliver my tickets to the buyer.  However, I think this is just Ticketmaster's way of getting more control over making a profit on the re-selling of tickets, making it harder to re-sell on Stubhub or on the street. 

 

It's a real bummer that fans can't trade these paperless tickets fan-to-fan though.  I was able to sell an extra ticket at face value to a fan once and it felt good keeping it all in the family.  I'd love to have a way to buy or sell a ticket to another fan club member. 

 

I'm crossing my fingers that this will work out, and that the locals as well as those of us who plan to travel will get the tickets that we are looking for.  Makes for a nervous waiting game.

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I click on Transfer for my Ny GA's and it says it is unavailable.  So when does that work.  The button is there like you say and it's useless.  You failed to mention that.

Still on my knees looking for help.

Now, there used to be whole threads.  One was selling only and one thread topic was trades only.  I used to live there to make a touring season work.

 

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I would argue it's not efficient at all.  I scan my ticket and I go in, done it for 20 years.  Now I have to keep a CC, carry it to the show etc.  Then I need to remember to pull it out.  Then your wife gets pregnant and you can't do GA now.  Now what do you do?  So how is paper "more efficient".  It's a 1000% PITA.  How can it not be, you are restricting freedom on the ticket.  How is a restriction "more efficient".  And how can someone say no one can argue that, when that position is destroyable.  This paperless is crushing making travel plans and putting together a U2 trip.  Now we have to come to them as they sit in a few cities and we can't get after-market tickets or even trade with fans.

Please PLEASE tell me how that is "obviously its way more efficient to have paperless tickets than paper". 

 

PLEASE I AM DOWN ON MY KNEES, tell me how to work with it since it is so efficient.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

This is laughable...  What is the difference between scanning a CC or scanning a ticket? NONE.

 

Being someone who has spent many summers and winters touring with Phish I understand the argument about touring with the band and wanting to pick up tickets the night of the show.  

You can still do this its just electronic now, TM offers the ability to sell your tickets back to the public, its up to U2 (Tour Management) if they want to allow this.  NFL has been doing it for years.

 

Back to the point of touring, for every one person who buys tickets off the street from a scalper and has a good experience there is someone who got ripped off by that same scalper either before or after.

 

Bottom line the system makes it difficult for scalpers, NOT for the fans and despite the gripes not having the souvenir from the show I am perfectly fine with it.

 

 

OK since you get this, if the time comes and you don't want to do GA how do I make a trade on u2.com?  I still haven't seen how this works to get out of a show you can't go to.  Is there just a lot of empty seats now scattered around since the show is paper?

 

If you purchased tickets already then log into your ticket master account, you will see two options, Sell and Transfer.  Takes the responsibility off of U2, off the fan, no hassle with PayPal and Stub hub, no shipping of tickets, clean transaction straight from the source, TM   B)

 

You may now get up off your knees, I think I answered all the questions you were begging to be answered. :D

 

Oh and forgot to mention if you have the app, your tickets will be on your phone too!  Once TM gets their act together and catch up to live nation and others you will be able to transfer tickets right from your phone to a buddy's phone with a push of a button.  49ers are doing that now.  Here too with big data analytics they will be able to capture who buys the tickets and where they end up to figure out who the scalpers are.

 

There is NO argument to the fact paperless tickets are more convenient and more efficient despite the novelty of not having the paper to put in a box and look at once a year :-)

 

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