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I+E --> Joshua Tree --> what's next...

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I've been thinking about how out of character it is for U2 to look back like this... I mean come on - many on here will remember Bono's mantra on Popmart: "Kiss the future, fuck the past".


I am wondering if it's a way to allow them to fast forward a bit at on the next leg of I+E. That could be the "Experience" leg, if you will. Assuming we ever see that album, and I'm not holding my breath, lol.


So - when I+E was announced, the band originally wanted to play one night of old tunes followed by one night of newer stuff.

Now - and this is my own interpretation - that COULD be seen as pre-Achtung stuff and post-Achtung stuff. Right?


It's well documented that when they got into the nitty gritty of rehearsals and tour planning, U2 realised there were too many classics that they felt they just could not play on one night only - either the innocent or the experienced audience might feel screwed over if they booked tickets for the "wrong" night from their point of view.


Now - disregarding the comments last week about how the world has changed with recent political upheavals and so on... let's just imagine for a minute that the U2 team is planning an album release and the associated tour - likely an extension of the last tour.


I could imagine a desire to do two things:


1). Continue indoors - the shows were great, everybody loved them

2). Play the Experienced songs... more stuff from 1990 onwards, the more electronic complicated and musically interesting stuff. It sort of fits the theme. Yes, I know they played lots of this stuff on I+E, but there is a *lot* more that could be played. The whole Pop album, for starters - actually that won't happen, disregard :-)


Now, imagine somebody in the room floats the above idea.

Then some pragmatist in the group - possibly in the rhythm section - says "no way lads, we just can't do it - we have millions of fans who want to hear With Or Without You again. And by the way, sing the bloody SHINE LIKE STARS bit Bono".



Then the manager notes that they can't stay indoors, there's too much demand for tickets. "We need to go outdoors or we'll be playing 5 nights in every city again. We'll never get to Australia at that rate".



So, some bright spark floats the idea of a Joshua Tree anniversary tour.

They go all out, play stadia to big crowds and lash out all old-school crowd-pleasers. Every night a guaranteed sellout.


Then, afterwards, release Songs of Experience and immediately do another tour - this time indoors again, but make it very public that it's going to be a tour that focuses on the post-Joshua Tree era. One for the experienced fans as opposed to the old fans - the ones who have seen those old tunes a million times.


I would personally love that Experience tour, it would be nirvana for me.


Any thoughts?


It would mean the Joshua Tree tour has no songs from after, say, Rattle and Hum. That would also be kind of cool, and true to the title of the tour.

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Popmart 2.0 - The Online Broadcast :D


I jest, but I believe Popmart was the last time U2 took risks with having a thematic show. Maybe it was the 90s, maybe it was trying to shed colourful lights on the shadow of expectations cast by the revolutionary ZOO TV Tour, but Popmart was breathtaking.


U2 really are looking back a lot more lately (i.e., SOI and the I + e Tour) and thankfully they have enough history to make their walks down memory lane truly entertaining (and lucrative).


So if "Innocence" was about the beginning stages of their growth as a group, as artists and as individuals entering the world, then "Experience" has to be how they fit into that world and their awareness of it.


By definition, experience is about learning from your successes and mistakes. So with the celebration of Achtung Baby's anniversary behind them (the album that bridged their "Innocence" phase, leading into their "Experience" era), and after the completion of the JT Tour '17, I predict we'll hear more Zooropa, Pop and Passengers. <_<


Gotta learn from your "mistakes", right?

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Bono has a short memory.


I don't mind this time though.


'Red Hill Mining Town'.



The reason the last tour did not turn out as advertised was simply that they second guessed themselves at the 11th hour. Deciding they shouldn't have gone into the river when they had already gone 1/2 way across with official statements. 


It's like walking across a flashlight beam only to have it turn off halfway across the chasm. Where do you go from there.





As you were.

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The I+E tour concept fell apart once they announced they would do the whole "two nights, two different sets" thing which you knew from the moment it was mentioned it wasn't going to happen and it clearly hadn't been thought through.


Ever since then they have kind of jumped from one idea to the next and nobody knows where their going, I don't even think they do to be honest.

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