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All valid points...Ever since 89', and of course much worse in the last 15-20 yrs, they like to say a bunch of bullshit and do whatever they wind up doing, WHENever  they wind up doing it.  Larry's the only one light on the spewing.  If the leave ONE tune from the back 2/3 of the Joshua Tree album out in the live concert, I'll be pissed.  There would have been NO point other than playing a safe bet IF they dont play its entirety...I for one could go 20+ years not hearing Still Haven't Found and With or Without you live again in a set.  Even Streets isnt what it was, but ya still gotta have it..After witnessing 54 shows in nearly 3 decades, my money was spent to hear tracks 4 thru 11....PERIOD...anything left out would provide a huge dissapointment.

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I mean, think about it - let's say you're a giant U2 fan and you've always wanted to meet someone in the band.  You get to the venue before the concert early, and just so happen to catch one or more of the members who decided to stop to sign autographs.  You've got Bono's attention for ten seconds.  What do you do?  Try to blurt out a coherent quick sentence on a complex topic and try to express that the fans aren't being respected in the way that they had been for the band's entire career, and hope that it somehow sinks in, knowing full well that the band signed a multi-year management deal and that nothing is likely to change?  Or worse, that the band would say they knew, and they didn't care?  Or do you quickly tell him that you love the music, and maybe try to sneak in a song request?  I'm willing to bet that over the course of the tour, not one fan wasted their ten seconds to say that organizationally, things are falling through the cracks.

 

That would be the perfect topic for the tea ceremony with Bono and Julia Roberts, the winner should definitely raise this issue there, on behalf of all of us. Who knows, maybe Julia will help too.  ;)

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The problem with this dissection of the timeline is it takes place in a vacuum, and isn't addressing that ticket prices for every band went up primarily because of people pirating their albums and bands making far less revenue from their catalog than ever before, so touring has become the one area where they can still hold the line on financials. Add ticket prices for other bands in, add Napster in, etc., etc., and then it would be a more complete picture. It also excludes the fact that $50 on the Pop Mart isn't being adjusted over time, and assuming that $50 then and now are the same values, which isn't true. Not that this is unusual, Hollywood never uses adjusted numbers, either, or else no movie would ever bring in more box office than Gone With The Wind.

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I'm not nervous about the tour at all. I think a valid point was raised earlier re: RHMT. Listened back, and do think Bono might struggle to hit some of those notes in his more advanced years - however, would never under-estimate his tenacity to achieve some version of the song with the rest of the band. Maybe a cooked down version of the song akind to what they did with Every Breaking Wave on the last tour. Much preferred the album version of that song to the slower tempo live one - but it worked in the context of the show.

I'm really quite excited to see how the band will approach a retro tour for the first time. I'm hoping they will have quite a bit of fun with it, if truth be told. It's a real opportunity for them to mix it up a bit as clearly the JT songs won't supplement a 2hr plus gig, a 22-25 song (as has been the U2 live way for the most part) setlist on their own.

What will the PA rig / stage look like? Was the Christmas day Joshua Tree a hint?

A really interesting next 3 to 4 months ahead if only for the fact the band are not (as we know to this point) touring any new material. Fantastic to see the them come outdoor this summer - totally unexpected.

However, I do hope they push on from this in whatever form it takes, and realease the new material pre year end, say fall/Autumn - and back that up with perhaps early 2018 southern hemisphere shows.

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I'm not nervous about the tour at all. I think a valid point was raised earlier re: RHMT. Listened back, and do think Bono might struggle to hit some of those notes in his more advanced years - however, would never under-estimate his tenacity to achieve some version of the song with the rest of the band. Maybe a cooked down version of the song akind to what they did with Every Breaking Wave on the last tour. Much preferred the album version of that song to the slower tempo live one - but it worked in the context of the show.

I'm really quite excited to see how the band will approach a retro tour for the first time. I'm hoping they will have quite a bit of fun with it, if truth be told. It's a real opportunity for them to mix it up a bit as clearly the JT songs won't supplement a 2hr plus gig, a 22-25 song (as has been the U2 live way for the most part) setlist on their own.

What will the PA rig / stage look like? Was the Christmas day Joshua Tree a hint?

A really interesting next 3 to 4 months ahead if only for the fact the band are not (as we know to this point) touring any new material. Fantastic to see the them come outdoor this summer - totally unexpected.

However, I do hope they push on from this in whatever form it takes, and realease the new material pre year end, say fall/Autumn - and back that up with perhaps early 2018 southern hemisphere shows.

Agree:RHMT should fit perfect in a B Stage kind of thing.

Also....expecting them to throw in some new songs before SOE comes out....hopefully it should be out while they are still on tour and make it like a 1-2 punch kind of thing.

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Vertigojds: 

 

I love U2 like mad, but  yes, I agree with much of what you said.  I thought I was the only one to think that way.  I felt it was odd the way they marketed the I E Tour.

 

I wondered why they would pressure us to buy 2 nights worth of tickets. I really did not want to spend that much money. Also there was no way to choose which

 

night to go to. They gave no description of how to choose which night to go to. So I just chose the first night at random. I also was surprised to find myself behind

 

the stage. I thought I choose a a view of the front of the stage. Still I love them like mad, and more and more each day,  I guess you have to be patient with artists.

 

 

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Nope, not nervous cos not going :)

pretty sure they certainly will play the whole album that is not the question

I just personally feel my nearest and dearest U2 time really was the decade 1982-92 and then, the amazing 360 tour. I only regret I did not attend the Elevation tour that was a mistake but the band was not in the radar then even though the album was.

Otherwise, this one I shall skip cos it is impossible to live it again, live, that album with this band, cannot do. Cannot imagine how they could do it without a pathetic one getting sad.

Instead heading to a Skeleton Tree tour. I can cry out there.

 

PS. I very much agree that the idea of I&E how it was sold was brilliant! Loved it. Two different nights, yes! and even though it did not happen (a pity but maybe it would have been too difficult and expensive with all the visuals and the manuscript) saw the show twice and it certainly had its moments. October, Every Breaking Wave, New Years Day, very special.

And Larrys blue shirt. And caught the eyes of the Edge from the stage, yep, great.

So, until the next album maybe. 

 

PS 2. Well well. Have thought this over after hearing some comments from the band and looking through some 87 tour stuff 

hmm. Well. Dublin Croker 22nd might have been a wonderful wonder. All the best for the crowd & for the band.

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Like   zooropamofo  I am also a huge Bruce and U2 fan.  I saw The River tour three times in 2016.  The first two I saw they played The River straight through from the beginning and it was awesome.  The third time The River was not played.  I think sometime during the first half of 2016 they announced that on the last leg The River would not be played (not sure if tickets for this leg were sold before or after the announcement.)  Anyway the point is bands and set lists change while on tour; however, I'm sure glad I got to see The River redux.  

 

As far as The Joshua Tree I surely hope they play straight through and as much as I love the first three 'hits' I am more stoked about the second half of the album. Especially   7. "In God's Country"

8. "Trip Through Your Wires"  and 9. "One Tree Hill".  For some reason this trio are my favorites on the album.   

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