Subscriber tvgio.com Posted April 11, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, bacadorina said: a CD with an I+E concert or Joshua Tree 30 concert would have been a better idea. Pretty good idea. Also, the Band surely has plenty of video footage from Rattle and Hum tours ... why not a DVD or digital video download of these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber dmway Posted April 11, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, Manohlive said: It must be a bitch. It's hard for me to still defend the band vs. Live Nation and I pay to do it. I did NOT know they were unpaid positions until just now. My respect, admiration and affection for the mods just increased exponentially. I don't think anything we say now will affect the 2018 gift. It could make a difference for the 2019 gift, and future presales. I'm not trying to incite a figurative riot here. I'm trying to figure out a concrete action all of us can agree upon and do so collectively. At least we are doing something. I'm not trying to take the helm of anything. We need to do something that does not cause problems yet gets across the discontent of Zootopia. You and I are operating from the same place. We would just like to have things be as good as they used to be not all that long ago. I'm don't know why anyone would think more than that. I hope no one does. 32 minutes ago, SAYDEE said: Well, contrary to popular opinion in this thread, I like the vinyl gift although my "The Joshua Tree Singles Vinyl Collection" doesn't appear yet The thing is I am legitimately happy for those who are happy with the gift. There are many who like vinyl - that's great! Can't those who don't want vinyl be equally happy too? That's all I'm asking... 20 minutes ago, Manohlive said: I'm cool with this gift too. I really like my THT vinyls. If I am overdoing, please pardon me. I'm trying to find a way to channel all the discontent into a positive response; nothing more. I love U2 and this site. I'm going to resubscribe whether the gift is this or that or if there is a tour or not. The thing is I'll probably keep resubscribing too - I love the band. But, the frustration has been building for 3-4 years now. The service has declined over the years. I wish it would stop. 7 minutes ago, doctornickriviera said: Now the Achtung Baby/pop era remixes are awesome..... even better than the real thing perfecto Remix is fantabulous bake me higher! Takes me back to the uni indie disco back in the 90s that one Now, I fully agree here - the remixes for the 90s era are really great. It's just that somebody somewhere in the U2 hierarchy thinks there is this endless appetite for remixes. I suspect that that opinion is not correct. For example, I didn't get the last JT boxset because all it really had over the deluxe edition from a decade ago was a few remixes - I couldn't justify buying that whole set just for a few remixes. It also was lacking the DVD of the JT show from France. So, I was fully satisfied with the original deluxe edition. Now, those who wanted everything on vinyl were very well served by last year's set. So, I'm glad it was made. (I did get the 2CD version for the live show included - of course, I scratched my head why it wasn't the complete show, but such is the mystery of life...) The thing is, if a CD version (or a CD-quality download) of this year's gift were available in addition to the vinyl, I would have no complaints at all. I think many feel exactly the same way. Max mentioned something about permissions, and that may be why something like a JT live show from last year was never going to happen. This may be because they are eventually going to release a set commercially or it could be for royalty reasons or any number of things. It would just be nice to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Anam Posted April 11, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 11, 2018 To clarify, is the $85 sub for the 3D mixes (love it btw) and the JT singles? Assuming so, but not specified. Asking for a pal who wants to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Moderator mich40 Posted April 11, 2018 Community Moderator Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Anam said: To clarify, is the $85 sub for the 3D mixes (love it btw) and the JT singles? Assuming so, but not specified. Asking for a pal who wants to be sure. Yes, the $85 subscription is for both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber skapus Posted April 12, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just seems an odd choice to release something that you know at least some of (me included) your longtime fans already own. release something that has never been released before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CorkVegan Posted April 12, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2018 Initially I was luke warm about this but I've grown more uncertain. A very brief search on eBay showed that these tracks are readily available and are not in the least bit rare. Also what is it with U2 and remixes? There seems to be no input from the band, they just hand the track off to somebody who has a free hand. Why so many all the time? Apart from the U2 organization no one else seems keen on them and yet they keep on coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Anam Posted April 12, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) It's not rare but it is a bit pricey, and from what I've seen in record shops and fairs very rare in good condition. There are HQ lossless rips doing the rounds, but speaking as a collector, I'd much rather a new copy of my own. The remixes themselves are excellent with unique vocal tracks and extra production compared to the edited releases on the singles. I'd agree with previous comments that some remixes fail to hit the mark, but there have, to be fair, been superb - and popular - remixes down the years. I'm very pleased with this I must say, and would be glad to join the queue if it was an RSD or Black Friday release. To have it land on the doorstep is cool as have most of the gifts, barring those bad businesses with the card-shaped metal keyring and the litho-wallpapery things. On a separate note CorkVegan, you'll know this I suppose, but Record Zone in Douglas has a great line on U2 vinyl. Costs me a fortune everytime I'm home! Edited April 12, 2018 by Anam Notifications 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CorkVegan Posted April 12, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Anam said: On a separate note CorkVegan, you'll know this I suppose, but Record Zone in Douglas has a great line on U2 vinyl. Costs me a fortune everytime I'm home! I'm based in the States these days Anam but I've transported my fair share of records across the Atlantic in carry on. I know the struggle. Still miss the days of flipping through the albums in Leeside music up on MacCurtain Street digging for treasure. Love your username by the way. Wish I had thought if it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Anam Posted April 12, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 hours ago, CorkVegan said: I'm based in the States these days Anam but I've transported my fair share of records across the Atlantic in carry on. I know the struggle. Still miss the days of flipping through the albums in Leeside music up on MacCurtain Street digging for treasure. Love your username by the way. Wish I had thought if it. Thanks buddy. I've had that handle years now. Catchier than the real name! MacCurtain Street was a home from home. Can trace nearly all my early U2 vinyl to Leeside, and every cassette bootleg to the place upstairs on Bridge St, over what became Vibes & Scribes. Happier times. I got my U23D dance mixes down the back of Crowleys I think. It's ropey now though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber dmway Posted April 12, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Anam said: It's not rare but it is a bit pricey, and from what I've seen in record shops and fairs very rare in good condition. There are HQ lossless rips doing the rounds, but speaking as a collector, I'd much rather a new copy of my own. The remixes themselves are excellent with unique vocal tracks and extra production compared to the edited releases on the singles. I'd agree with previous comments that some remixes fail to hit the mark, but there have, to be fair, been superb - and popular - remixes down the years. I'm very pleased with this I must say, and would be glad to join the queue if it was an RSD or Black Friday release. To have it land on the doorstep is cool as have most of the gifts, barring those bad businesses with the card-shaped metal keyring and the litho-wallpapery things. On a separate note CorkVegan, you'll know this I suppose, but Record Zone in Douglas has a great line on U2 vinyl. Costs me a fortune everytime I'm home! Not to belabor the point, IMHO, this would have been an ideal RSD/Black Friday release. I kind of wish it had been done that way. The songs collected for this gift, in and of themselves, are completely fine. Are they my favorite ever? No, but not every annual gift is going to please every person. Also, someone high in the U2 hierarchy seems to think there is unlimited desire for remixes among the U2 fanbase - I really wish they would revisit this opinion because I suspect, if they actually canvassed our opinions, they would be shocked to discover that we collectively want remixes less than they think. Still, my objections to this release, and I know there are others who feel the same way, would immediately vanish if we were given the option of having a factory-pressed silver CD (which costs MUCH less to produce and to mail than new vinyl) - or, failing that, a CD-quality/lossless download so that we could burn our own CD with a CD-quality file. If you like vinyl, that's great - I'm very happy the vinyl is available for such fans. BUT, the rest of us who don't want vinyl pay exactly the same dues here as everyone else. We are equally deserving to be given the opportunity to be pleased with the annual gift. Having mp3s as the only other option doesn't do the trick - they are not the digital equivalent of vinyl. The last two vinyl releases only had the option of mp3 downloads - I don't want this one to be the third. I hope you enjoy the vinyl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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