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7 hours ago, seanclv said:

There's a whole thread in this same forum called something like "Was anyone in the Innocence group able to get GA for Vegas"  where people went on at sale time and weren't able to get GA tickets, so I would have been more peeved if I took paid time off from work to go through that .

My commentary was also about the significant increase in ticket prices. I'm not going to pay $40 for the opportunity to pay $300 again, actually next time it probably be $400. . I guess I am just not that big of a fan. 

Well anyways, I'm over it. Have fun at the show!!

To be honest, I didn't look that closely at the prices. I noticed they were somewhat higher, but for the GAs, by the time I did the exchange from Cdn to US, it wasn't a huge increase. But you are right, they are higher. But so is the price of everything else, gas, milk, bread. I think the highest price I ever paid was $250 for gold-level seating for one show in Toronto in 2005. My daughter's Ed Sheeran tickets for this coming August, on the floor with seats, were $160.

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I'm sorry to the innocence group but if the experience group bought all of them that means that the most "real fans" got the tickets.

The citicard thing actually makes me mad. I think it's pretty awful to try to get your fans to pick up another credit card or change their banking system just to get tickets. That's not working toward

Ditto for me...am I the only one who stared at their phone afterwards feeling I must have missed something because it went so smoothly? Fingers crossed for all still trying!

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The only thing easier than the experience pre-sale was the Citicard pre-sale.  I think it took about 7 minutes total to get 2 tickets on Tuesday and 4 more GAs on Thursday.  

So far the verified fan system is working. 

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4 hours ago, Gjachts said:

The only thing easier than the experience pre-sale was the Citicard pre-sale.  I think it took about 7 minutes total to get 2 tickets on Tuesday and 4 more GAs on Thursday.  

So far the verified fan system is working. 

The citicard thing actually makes me mad. I think it's pretty awful to try to get your fans to pick up another credit card or change their banking system just to get tickets. That's not working towards a healthy view of how we use money that I would think the band would care about.

Hey and I apologize to everyone. I didn't mean to rub it in. My bad. I accept the heat I'm taking here and I'm sorry.

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20 hours ago, Wakebird said:

The citicard thing actually makes me mad. I think it's pretty awful to try to get your fans to pick up another credit card or change their banking system just to get tickets. That's not working towards a healthy view of how we use money that I would think the band would care about.

Hey and I apologize to everyone. I didn't mean to rub it in. My bad. I accept the heat I'm taking here and I'm sorry.

Well done.

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On 11/16/2017 at 5:51 PM, BillHenderson said:

What is missing is data.  It is one thing if there are 3,000 GA tickets, and 2,500 were bought by 1,500 Experience group fans on day 1, and the remaining 500 went in the first minute of the Innocence group.  It is altogether a different thing if there are 3,000 GA tickets at a venue and 400 went to Experience group, 400 to Innocence group and 2,200 are going to other buyers.  I'm making the numbers up, but the principle is that some transparency and facts might solve some of the anger... 

The absence of transparency and facts fuels speculation and suspicion. If the facts show the most prized tickets went to the Experience group, and that the Innocence group had the next shot at the best seats ahead of Citigroup and general sales, no one would have much to complain about.  But if that is really the case....why don't they report it as such?

Yep. This has always been the dirty little secret of the concert industry. Hold backs, presales, diversions, all secret unless some type of lawsuit happens and even then I don't think the data is ever made public. There was a huge outcry in 2007 and 2012 over springsteen Tix being diverted and fans being redirected to TMs resale site. I know some legislators in NJ were looking into what happened, and some fans (including me) were actually given an opportunity to buy tickets that were held back.  but I don't think any actual data on holdbacks or actual sales was ever released. The data is certainly there with TM.  And with public funds paying for some of these buildings where the events take place, you'd think citizens should have a right to know what's going on. 

But you are absolutely right that transparency would make these entities more accountable to concertgoers...

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Maybe for th Experience group. Husband got 2 Forum GA tixs for us with his membership and I was going to get 2 more for my son and my father in law (Innocence group) but never got anything below 300dlls. Screw this presale..this is the first time we cannot get GA tixs during a fan presale. 

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I was in the Innocence group and I did in fact get 2 GA for Montreal right at 1pm.

I can't help but think the verified fan process works similar for both the fan club pre-sales and the general onsale, in the sense that the number of verified fans given an access code is directly proportional to the number of fan club tickets being released/general on sale tickets being released.  

This is how they control the bottleneck at the moment of sale.

Everyone got a chance to buy tickets.  However, now instead of a free-for-all at the moment of sale when luck of the draw/timing determines your luck, now that happens when the "draw" of codes happens with those that have been verified.

I also realize that those of us pleased with the process feel that way because we got tickets, and if we hadn't, we'd feel differently.

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On 14/11/2017 at 6:23 PM, svoot said:

Couldn't agree more! This was quick and painless. Didn't really feel pressured at all. This is a great way to do things! Hope everyone else had just as easy a time!

 

Agreed. Managed to get Red Zone for MSG with no problems at all. Feeling blessed !!!

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