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calling someone a hater because they think a album like no line is poor is pathetic.I virtually love every track of every album they have made up till no line, very few tracks  i dislike if any.People like this would rave over a album full of fart sounds if it was u2 and obviously get upset hearing the truth that its not just their worst but a poor virtualy tuneless album.I dont rate soi either and thought the tour was the worst i have seen.Sure they sounded ok but played to many new poor songs like the no line tour and didnt like the stage set up. most of the time the band were somewhere else in the arena  i was in redzone.Enjoyed the joshua tree tour much more on a more traditional stage although they didnt sound quite as good.Some peoples views are blinded by their love for the band i am far from a hater my wife thinks i am obsessed i just say it as it is their music is probably 90% of my listening live stuff mainly and  the new album is  ok better than no line and soi but not as good as the rest .

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11 hours ago, Manohlive said:

Cool.  Does Landlady remind you of anything previous?  I'd like to hear people's input. I don't hear any previous sound/music songs.  Am I missing past song(s)? 

The music of Landlady (to my ears, anyway) sounds unique - however, one of the things I think is really sweet on this album is that lyrically two songs (at least) couldn't be more about/to Bono's wife. The lyrics to "Landlady" and "You're The Best Thing About Me" are almost complete quotations from interviews over the years with Bono about his wife. The band allegedly toyed with the idea of naming AB "Adam" when he was photographed without the impediments of clothing - in a different way (obviously), the band could have considered entitling this album "Ali". (Although those less familiar with the band might have thought they were honoring a great heavyweight boxer...)

Yet another thing to like about the album. :)

 

 

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I think Book of your Heart and Landlady are the two strongest songs on SOE. Both these songs sounds Unique like dmway saying and especially landlady is like they have not searched that long back for delivering something this good again. 

Songs that I have in mind are from the three albums before SOI. 

Sometimes you can't make it on your own (HTDAAB)

Walk On (ATYCLB)

Cedars of Lebanon (NLOTH)

If Landlady and Book of your heart will be performed on this tour they will be something special.

Cross fingers at least one is played.

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On 2/8/2018 at 2:31 PM, Njord69 said:

the verify system was it only pre-sale?

It does not seem to be verified any longer.  There are great seats for Chicago still available.  I've seen great seats for other cities.  It did not check if I was verified or not.  I was searching and not purchasing.  I don't think verified enters into things any longer for the American leg of this tour.

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On 2/13/2018 at 9:03 AM, phill pohl said:

People like this would rave over a album full of fart sounds

I remember seeing that interview with David Bowie talking about how he and Brian Eno would get new synthesizers and toss out the instructions.  He gets that cocky Bowie grin and says they were more interested in the crackles and farts of playing with the synths than not knowing what they were doing.  There must be farts in the live U2 music you love so much.  

rebel rebel...

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Yet another thing I like about SOE...

I like how Bono won't hold back on taking the piss out of himself when he feels like it. Obviously, I'm referring to "The Showman" here. Of course, it's a wider criticism of the absurdities of celebrity in general, but he is certainly the specific target in this song. Many who reach the heights of fame such as he/they have wouldn't dream of doing such a thing, but I admire that Bono/U2 do.

Musically, it's a light-hearted song in a style they usually don't play in - here, kind of a mock reggae. As such, the song's sound and placement on the album is mildly reminiscent (for me, anyway) of "The Refugee" on 'War". Now, "The Refugee" was very of its time, very stereotypically "80s" - which made it such an odd song for them to do. While they were an 80s band at the time because they simply made music in that decade, they didn't often have the stereotypical sounds and styles in their songs that existed widely in other bands at the time. But, the song fit a purpose: yes, we're a serious band, but we can do stuff for fun too. It is this same motivation that I hear on "The Showman".

"The Showman" is a more substantive song; "The Refugee" always sounded a bit more disposable (I'm not sure they ever played it live, nor would I have really wanted to hear it back then...or now). But the m.o. for their inclusions on their respective albums is, IMHO, the same. Serious people like to have fun too. B)

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I discovered something new in SOE-Love is Bigger:  I can't remember the words in the last part of the opening stanza.  Stop walking, start singing and stop talking?  I don't know.  I've been singing this song aloud and in my head while going about my day.  I switched the words around...stop singing, start walking and start talking?  I still don't know.  I noticed that with each different combination, the interchanged words, for me, take on a whole different direction and significance.  It can be about the same thing or something else. Same thing as I said about UTEOTW, only now it's half of an opening stanza.  I know what the song's about. I love this album.

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Another thing I like about this album is that they made the right choices (IMHO, of course) for which songs to include.

Just because a song is strong individually doesn't mean that it will necessarily fit in the larger context of the whole album. I remember when I first heard "Stateless" on "The Million Dollar Hotel" soundtrack. It was recorded during the ATYCLB sessions, but the band - correctly, in my view - didn't put it on the album. The band said in interviews at the time that they felt it just didn't fit, despite the song's being a good one. I really like the song, but I agree with the band's view that it was right to leave it off. ("Winter" during the NLOTH sessions is another example - great song, but didn't really fit with the flow of the album.)

The same thing has happened here with "Book Of Your Heart". It is indeed a very good song (the guitar playing reminds me a bit of Interpol, as does the whole song in general - musically anyway); however, despite its being strong individually, I don't know where they would have put it on the album where it would have sounded right, esp. if they had to take off a different song to do so. Great song, but better as an extra, IMHO.

They have played extra songs live on occasion - maybe we'll hear it someday anyway...

 

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On 2018-02-03 at 4:51 PM, acdublin said:

Maybe others have said this but Bono's got to be close to the end of his paradox ration in SOE?!  U2 have always deployed paradox nicely but its frequency grates on me a little, even though I really like most of the songs... 

shooting stars, brighter as they're vanishing; how bad can a good time be; get out of you own way; you can only truly own what you give away; blessed are the bullies for one day they will have to stand up to themselves; when all is lost we find out what remains; we can't afford to be afraid of what we fear; this freedom it might cost you your liberty; see myself from a distance; the end is not coming, it's not coming, the end is here; the lies we know are almost true; I will win and call it losing; the darkness where we learn to see; the blackout, is this an extinction event we see?; you can hear the silence say; when you think you're done you've only just begun; are you tough enough to be kind; your heart has its own mind; are we tough enough for ordinary love; 

 

 

I really like this about his writing. Its not infrequently brilliant  

Language is interesting as it seems in its ...each if not every language~evolution from grunts and other guttural sounds to words and then grammatical logic ‘we’have established an organic need to be duelustic. 

Maybe it’s is because we fear words OR saying what we mean or need to say. 

At minimum, it’s better than being passive aggressive !! ?

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