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5 hours ago, JCF said:

Before, I had been thinking about dictators and wanna-be dictators (Trump) wanting people to need them.

I hadn't gotten past the lower case question.  No images had entered my mind.  Now it's Trump?  sigh.  Thanks a lot.  sigh  (I am jesting.).  I had not gone past lower case, and now your mention of greedy leaders just got me thinking more. Trump eating fast food burgers and wiping his hands on sheets spun in 24 karat gold...Putin and his unending need to be photographed shirtless...the chubby little mushroom fanatically flying rockets in North Korea.

You also comment on the line about the promised land.  There's a multi-faceted image.  Trump and Taj Mahal?  Springsteen's song...Israel and the Palestinians.  The bombed out rubble that is Syria.  Myanmar.  Most African countries being in a state of war. Antarctica breaking into ice cubes.  Puerto Rico and Dominica and Barbuda being left to fend for their own selves now that the cruise ships can't dock.  There's so many other different directions this all takes.  Each person's input challenges, agrees or adds to something someone else interprets. That makes me question and think more of what it all means.  Thank you, JCF.

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1 hour ago, yardie said:

THIS SONG is just absolutely extraordinarily beautiful/ classic / thought provoking / brilliant.

 

The funny thing is that this song was all the rage one page back! :D

 

On 2/16/2018 at 12:44 PM, dmway said:

Another thing I like about this album is that they made the right choices (IMHO, of course) for which songs to include.

Just because a song is strong individually doesn't mean that it will necessarily fit in the larger context of the whole album. I remember when I first heard "Stateless" on "The Million Dollar Hotel" soundtrack. It was recorded during the ATYCLB sessions, but the band - correctly, in my view - didn't put it on the album. The band said in interviews at the time that they felt it just didn't fit, despite the song's being a good one. I really like the song, but I agree with the band's view that it was right to leave it off. ("Winter" during the NLOTH sessions is another example - great song, but didn't really fit with the flow of the album.)

The same thing has happened here with "Book Of Your Heart". It is indeed a very good song (the guitar playing reminds me a bit of Interpol, as does the whole song in general - musically anyway); however, despite its being strong individually, I don't know where they would have put it on the album where it would have sounded right, esp. if they had to take off a different song to do so. Great song, but better as an extra, IMHO.

They have played extra songs live on occasion - maybe we'll hear it someday anyway...

 

 

On 2/25/2018 at 11:12 AM, hillpy2 said:

I’d just like to state the fact that Larry Mullen is a Genius!  “Book of Your Heart,”... in that song, which I LOVE, I’m mesmerized by the drum work. All hail Larry!! Amen!

 

On 2/25/2018 at 11:50 AM, dmway said:

Yes! I really like his drum work in that song too. I can't think of another song where he plays a rhythm track quite like that.

Come to think of it, both Bono and The Edge sing and play (respectively) in an atypical way too - of course, Adam supports the other three brilliantly as he always does. :) As I wrote above, I still think it was the right decision to leave this song off of the regular album (IMHO, I don't know where one would place it on SOE proper to have it sound right) - however, just as with "Stateless" and "Winter" (among others) in the past, that doesn't mean it isn't a brilliant song in its own right: it certainly is!

Extra songs are sometimes played live, and I hope this song is one of them. I could very easily see them throwing in this song as an addendum to another song while they were playing live, either as just an extra bit or as part of a larger medley. It has a wonderful intense crescendo at the end.

 

On 2/28/2018 at 10:28 PM, JCF said:

yes! And Adam, on the last part of the song. 

 

On 3/1/2018 at 5:23 PM, Manohlive said:

I concur.  It was not until the last couple of nights that I've been able to listen to BOYH carefully.  Those drums are incredible and so is Adam.  My gosh, that rhythm drives me to an idyllic insanity.  Thanks for pointing it out, as I had not yet sat and given this song my full attention.

 

I have been thinking about your comment.  I listened to Book of Your Heart, with what you stated specifically in mind.  I think you are right.  At first I thought, 'No way.'. (no critique-I thought there was no way we'd hear it.)  The more I listened and thought about it, the more your comment makes sense to me.  They add 40 to Bad.  Why not add this song on the end of another?  I also agree that the ending crescendo would be a treat if added to a song, or your mention of a larger medley.  It would be awesome and unexpected. Thanks for what you said.

:D

 

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Does Book Of Your Heart remind anyone of Love is Blindness? I keep thinking about it and I can't figure out why.. It stills comes to my mind when I listen to BOYH..

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5 hours ago, Manohlive said:

Does Book Of Your Heart remind anyone of Love is Blindness? I keep thinking about it and I can't figure out why.. It stills comes to my mind when I listen to BOYH..

Very much so, but it also comes to mind when I listen to "13 (There Is A Light)". They (i.e., all three) have a world-weariness to them - BOYH reminds me more of "Love Is Blindness" around the guitar solo, but it reminds me more of 13 in the verses. 13 sounds like the protagonist of "Love Is Blindness" who has taken a few more hits from life, and a little more worn down for the experience - but still knows there is a light...

In fact, "Love Is Blindness" is the epitome of what I think of as the "downbeat, moody closer" that most U2 albums have had ever since War (now that doesn't mean that such a closer can't make you feel uplifted upon hearing it - U2 have this remarkable ability to combine somewhat morose lyrics with uplifting singing/music) : 40, MLK, Mothers Of The Disappeared, All I Want Is You, Love Is Blindness, The Wanderer, Wake Up Dead Man, Grace, Yahweh, Cedars Of Lebanon, The Troubles, and now 13 (There Is A Light). Sure, some of these songs one might not consider completely similar, but they all have a certain essence to them that is the same - an essence that convinced the band to close their respective albums with them.

So, sorry to pivot from your original post, but 13 strikes me as the protagonist from Love Is Blindness with more life experience/wisdom - in fact, it seems to be almost a reply to it ("Yes, love is blindness, but there is a light...", as it were).

The section around the solo of Love Is Blindness does remind me of BOYH, though. :)

 

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On 3/5/2018 at 8:26 AM, Manohlive said:

Does Book Of Your Heart remind anyone of Love is Blindness? I keep thinking about it and I can't figure out why.. It stills comes to my mind when I listen to BOYH..

 

Nope Man O - don't see that so much. LIB was very much more a louder concoction of noise driven by a rusty steely Edge guitar, with moderate breaks.

Very much more electronic influence on this imo, which wasn't present on the former.

The similarity I hear potentially comes from the quiet to loud aspect of the music.

 

Both great tracks. I tend not to over analyse, but merely enjoy.

 

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I haven't followed this thread, but I wanted to add my two cents about SoE...

I messed with the track order a bit. 

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Love Is All We Have Left

Lights of Home (St. Peter's String Version)

You're the Best Thing About Me

Get Out of Your Own Way

American Soul

The Blackout

Summer of Love

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Red Flag Day

The Showman (Little More Better)

Book of Your Heart

The Little Things That Give You Away

Landlady

Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way

13 (There Is A Light)

 

Moving up The Blackout feels much better to me. 

Similarly, the string version of Lights of Home feels great following on the heels of Love Is All We Have Left.

Is it just me or is U2 under the influence of Radiohead on Book of Your Heart? 

A great tune...and a fantastic album. 

I look forward to seeing the show in Omaha on the 19th of May, 2018.

The blending of the personal and political is masterful, 

taking on mortality, love, the rise of the extreme right wing in the west, the plight of Syrian refugees, and the need to remain hopeful despite the world going mad around you. 

I have heard that this may be their last album. 

As much as I hope this isn't the case, I feel like this is U2 going out on top.

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3 minutes ago, HansasHeroes1991 said:

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Is it just me or is U2 under the influence of Radiohead on Book of Your Heart?

As I said last page, I hear more Interpol than Radiohead - Radiohead of the 90s sounded like that, but not Radiohead post-Kid A.

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3 minutes ago, dmway said:

As I said last page, I hear more Interpol than Radiohead - Radiohead of the 90s sounded like that, but not Radiohead post-Kid A.

I'm sorry. 
I have a bad habit of joining in pages and not bothering to read what has been said up until now. 

I see that I am not alone in my thinking on this.

Cheers.

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