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General Sales WITHOUT CODES this morning?

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This whole process stinks. There has got to be a better way. TM made people jump through way too many hoops for the privilege of buying a ticket.

This morning around 10:30 PST I tried to pull tickets in SJ and there were literally only 10 or 15 seats, mostly singles in the entire venue (according to their map that shows the dots of available seats.) I looked at the same map yesterday during the Verified Fan onsale and about an 8th of the venue was unsold but mostly upper corners. Now there are way more available than yesterday. I would bet less than 3/4 of the seats are sold. I wouldn't be expecting too many 2nd dates on this tour. 

I believe the band and management made every effort to do this the right way but they were sold a bill of goods from Ticketmaster and TM screwed the pooch.

Edited by sboccia

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just checked and you can get GA tickets for San Jose without a code

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8 hours ago, cmooreNC said:

Nope.  They're just trying to move the inventory they had left yesterday when the code sales fell flat.  And of course "verified resale" tickets at even HIGHER resale market prices, too.  That's a bit like rubbing salt in an open wound.  :-(

Wondering if that also ties into the seat/record bundle issue? Unsold seats equals unsold records and that doesn't help you top the charts on Record Release week. Just selling the seats isn't enough; the buyer has to opt in to download the cd or provide an address. In my cynical mind, I have visions of thousands of LN/TM friends opting in to download the record from those newly resold seats;)

So if you buy from a resale site, demand a download of the cd!

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It all looks very sad and aimed at maximising ticket revenue. I was at a meeting yesterday listening to the agent for possibly the biggest solo artist in the world right now and he explained how they have put in place their own system to stop secondary sales and touts hoovering up tickets for forthcoming tour. They spent 10 days going through purchases manually to verify 1.1m tickets. Every ticket is personally named and the T&C at time of purchase made it clear any resale attempt would result in cancellation. They also threatened all secondary sellers with legal action if any attempted to list tickets. Only Viagogo ignored this - as they ignore anything legal. They expect some 95% plus of tickets to find fans at face value. And if you can't go and need to sell, they have their own outlet to allow face value only sales.

The problem for U2, even if they wanted to do something similar, is that contractually they may be constrained by the deal with Live Nation. I expect they are still in pay back mode and the contract hasn't got much time left to run. The Live Nation model is designed to maximise revenue across all areas which is why they own all aspects, including the band.

 

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Very interesting, liverpool54321, I believe U2's contract with LN goes to/through 2020. Perhaps U2's people should be talking to your artist's people and others (I think Adele has been mentioned) who are doing a better job at getting tickets away from resellers. Also other ticketing options. Surely there is a startup poised to take TM's crown away just as TM once took away Ticketron's crown (in the US). A few major artists banding together can help that along.

They could also tell LN to play nicely with fans or take a leap. They only got to be a monopoly because artists let it happen. I know I'm being a Pollyanna, but man, somebody has got to do something.

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