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19 hours ago, kaber said:

No , the website started in 2005 but many memberships are marked as starting in 2009 even though they didn't lapse. 

This is certainly the case for me. 

I think they gave a lot of us 3 extra months membership and the start date on the accounts links to around renewal date at time 

True.

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I agree that this presale was far from perfect, and it definitely is a scam for them to ask us to re-suscribe early...... however, let's remember that they've always said that being a suscriber is not a guarantee that you will get tickets. So if the expensive tickets were all that was left, that is simply the risk we've always faced. No one forces us to pay the suscription, and many fans get tickets on the general sale without a problem. So let's not get so melodramatic here..... My advice would be that if you want to skip the shows or their albums it is perfectly fine.... you are not obligated to buy or attend....... but if you want to see the show, and are just not going to make a point.... i think you should try and go, because nor the band or the organizers are going to notice you are not there

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On 11/24/2017 at 11:26 AM, alekdome said:

because nor the band or the organizers are going to notice you are not there

On an individual level, that may be true... but they definitely noticed that each and every one of these E&I shows failed to sell out on its first day of sales, which was unimaginable a year ago, or two years ago when I&E was here. 

The seats at the lower price levels are generally sold out.  The seats at the high price level that are actually close to the stage and offer a good view of the screen are sold out. What's not sold out are the upper level $330 tickets, or the upper level high row $175 tickets.  The band overreached on those price points and sections.

It's crazy that the band played New Jersey over the summer and sold approximately 100,000-150,000 tickets between two shows which sold out in minutes... but have been unable to sell out a 15,000 venue in the same area.  100,000 people in New Jersey didn't decide overnght that they hated U2.  They decided they weren't spending $700+ to sit in the upper deck.

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On 11/25/2017 at 5:04 PM, vertigojds said:

On an individual level, that may be true... but they definitely noticed that each and every one of these E&I shows failed to sell out on its first day of sales, which was unimaginable a year ago, or two years ago when I&E was here. 

The seats at the lower price levels are generally sold out.  The seats at the high price level that are actually close to the stage and offer a good view of the screen are sold out. What's not sold out are the upper level $330 tickets, or the upper level high row $175 tickets.  The band overreached on those price points and sections.

It's crazy that the band played New Jersey over the summer and sold approximately 100,000-150,000 tickets between two shows which sold out in minutes... but have been unable to sell out a 15,000 venue in the same area.  100,000 people in New Jersey didn't decide overnght that they hated U2.  They decided they weren't spending $700+ to sit in the upper deck.

...And by showtime those once overpriced seats will be miraculously filled with the asses of fans once TM and Live Nation reduce the prices to them after seeing that they were a bit too "optimistic" on the price point.

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On 11/23/2017 at 9:39 AM, kaber said:

No , the website started in 2005 but many memberships are marked as starting in 2009 even though they didn't lapse. 

 

2009 was the date this version of Zootopia began, so earliest start date anyone can show on profile here is 2009.

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