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They opened the doors for that show at 5pm, right?  I think I walked over from the parking lot at exactly 5pm, walked up to the gates, walked in, and got the exact spot that I was hoping for - b-stage to my immediate left, main stage dead center right in front of me.  I could have been much closer, but I was going with friends and we wanted a vantage point that covered the whole stage, and that spot was perfect for that.

I had one night on the I&E tour in 2015 where I had general admission tickets but couldn't make it to the venue before the doors opened.  I think I got there at 6:30pm, and wound up one or two people back from the railing.  I was about three inches behind where I was the night before when I had waited for twelve hours.

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My experience from the 2015 and 2017 tours is that a select few fans manipulated the system to allow themselves prime positions in line without actually having to wait in line, going against previousl

Even though you "politely" pass people who have been waiting for hours, this pretty much makes you a dick.

I think it's fair to say that some people see the fan run queues as being 'cliques' that have a perception of being unfair.  Not everyone knows how to join the fan run queues or has the desire or incl

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15 hours ago, doctornickriviera said:

No idea what this little guy is doing down there. Maybe he’s a genuine Irish u2 security leprechaun.

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I'm such a pig.  I've got at least a dozen jokes I want to type but they are mostly obscene.  I'm not sure they'd be funny to anyone else. One can hope.  I sure am laughing..  You succeeded again, Doc.

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Good stuff Mano! 

People take life far too seriously imo.

keep smiling be positive and if you make someone somewhere laugh then the day has been  a good one!

spread silliness not  hate!

On 21/04/2018 at 6:55 AM, Manohlive said:

I'm such a pig.  I've got at least a dozen jokes I want to type but they are mostly obscene.  I'm not sure they'd be funny to anyone else. One can hope.  I sure am laughing..  You succeeded again, Doc.

 

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And the craziness has begun.

U2start is reporting that a fan-run GA queue has started in Chicago for the May 22nd show.  They will show up for four hours every Saturday between now and the concert on May 22nd, and will expect to be in front of the line.

I'm sorry, but showing up for four hours one day a week a month ahead of time is not waiting on line.  That person should not get priority over someone who shows up the night before and is willing to wait there all night.  I know moderators do read the posts on these forums, and that there may be a line of communication between the forum moderators and the band's management.  I would humbly request that management be made aware of this silliness so it can be shut down before it gets out of hand.

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On 19/04/2018 at 10:58 PM, vertigojds said:

My edit button doesn't seem to be working this second but I just wanted to add the following:

I'll go with whatever rule system the band and venue come up with.  I'd prefer a Springsteen-type lottery, but I don't think it's a requirement.

What I think is essential is that whatever rule is posted for all to see must be the rule that is followed.

My problem with a lot of the fan-run lists is that they go against clearly posted information, and most people won't have access to info about what the fan-run line is doing.

For example, on every show I saw in 2015 and 2017 that I had GA tickets for, I received an email in advance from Ticketmaster and/or the venue, outlining what the procedure would be for GA ticket holders.  All GA ticket holders got this email - about 2000 ticket holders for the indoor shows, and about 10,000 ticket holders for the outdoor shows.  If 10,000 people get an email saying "This is the time you can show up, this is where to go, and you can't get there earlier than X", there can't be a second set of rules for a select few that completely contradict the information that everyone else has been given.  And, if you got an email from the band, the venue, or the ticket agency, or visited the venue's website, or saw information posted on Twitter from the official source, why would you continue to look for unofficial lineup rules?  You probably wouldn't.  You'd see the rules posted and just assume that those were the rules for everyone.  As they should be.

I'll go with whatever the official rule is.  But I don't want another scenario where I follow every bit of guidance offered by the band and the venue, and then am penalized for following the rules because the rulebreakers have been let in ahead of me.

Well said (and your other post too).  This seemed to be the case so often with the last tour and it was even posted on the forums here (the ones that are set up by moderators for each specific show) where the queue was being formed often the night before and where people just added their name to a list etc.   I remember getting the info for one show from ticket master saying no queuing at venue before 12pm (or something like that) yet sure enough on the forum - there was a photo of fans with numbers on their hands at 10am.  I totally agree with the fact that you get there and you wait, none of this list check in crap then bugger off home.  I would be livid if someone said they had priority over me because they wrote their name on a list the night before.  I too would kick up the biggest fuss.  There were so many complaints last time in here about it.  Bet it will be the same all over again this time.  I’d like to get a job as security at a venue and ensure the venues rules are adhered to!  

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A list has already started for Tulsa. It started yesterday at noon apparently by some "superfan" from France. I found out about it on Twitter and have been voicing my opinion about it on Facebook in the Tulsa group ever since. I am flying in from Dallas day of. I work and do not have unlimited time off from work nor do I have the funds to spend almost a week in Tulsa for 1 show. Not to mention they started the list at the venue without even discussing it with venue staff and later were kicked off the premises. Now they are bouncing around from a restaurant across the street to an actual street corner after the restaurant tells them to leave! Everyone must check in twice a day up until Wednesday. I am plan on just showing up at noon day of and getting a wrist band and following whatever rules the venue provides. I don't mind people trying to organize a group for GA but starting it 5 days in advance is a bit ridiculous. This only benefits the people that are in Tulsa right now. . 

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I go into the concerts by myself. I turn up about half an hour before the show. Then I politely shuffle passed people who have been there for ages . I always manage to get within 3 or 4 people  from the rail. Don't try this in two's or three's though.

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On 4/28/2018 at 1:56 PM, zoodog1 said:

I go into the concerts by myself. I turn up about half an hour before the show. Then I politely shuffle passed people who have been there for ages . I always manage to get within 3 or 4 people  from the rail. Don't try this in two's or three's though.

That probably works quite well, as long as you aren't interested in actually being ON the rail (which is where I hang out).  We kick people out who try to get to the rail on false pretenses.  We always know who they are.

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On 4/28/2018 at 3:56 PM, zoodog1 said:

I go into the concerts by myself. I turn up about half an hour before the show. Then I politely shuffle passed people who have been there for ages . I always manage to get within 3 or 4 people  from the rail. Don't try this in two's or three's though.

Even though you "politely" pass people who have been waiting for hours, this pretty much makes you a dick.

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Continuous fan club member since 1987. My disgust with the fan-led mismanagement of general admission lines factored into my decision NOT to buy tickets for either I&E or E&I.

As others have said, it would be more fair to follow Springsteen's example: On the day of a show randomly assign positions in the G.A. line. Everyone then organizes behind the person who is #1. This removes the incentive/need to queue for more than 24 hours for a good position and endure the manipulation of certain cliques who have self-assigned themselves "organizers" of the line.

 

 

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