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So you aren't going to go to gig because the Band "may" have a different view to you ?

What's wrong with EU flag?

 

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There is nothing wrong with the EU flag , we voted to leave the EU in Britain so dont start waving it in the gigs over here, the crowd will be very divided and if they start waving the EU flag they may get a fair few people booing the fact. 

There is nothing wrong with different views i just dont want them rammed down my throat at a gig, ive read a fair few comments of fans over here who feel the same way. They are still an amazing live band and thats what i want to see, the guys rocking the place! I just find Bono's political speeches at gigs very off putting these days thats all. 

 

 

 

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I don't think that you need to be overly concerned @willo66

The theme of the show is the band's journey from 1980 to here, so while politcs are touched upon the tour isn't any more political than is normal for U2. When politics are mentioned the focus is more on the voters than the politicians. It is a very much "up with people" vibe that encourages people to do better and be better regardless of who they vote for. 

I'm sure that you're going to have a good time in Manchester. Trust them, playing live is their strength. U2 has always exceeded my expectations and delivered a set that was better than I hoped for.

 

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21 hours ago, willo66 said:

I have just read that they will be waving the EU flag at the coming European gigs. If this is the case I will be selling

my ticket for Manchester

I think that nobody cares that you will sell your ticket. Well, except the guy that will buy it - he will be very lucky, I am sure. It's the same as nobody in Europe cares about your Brexit anymore. It's your decision - do whatever you want. Exactly like U2 - they want to wave the EU flag. No matter what you, Farage or whoever from England think about it.

So, chill out. Or simply sell your ticket. At least you will make someone very happy ;)

And by the way, I don't mean to offend you. In that case I am just extremely honest about this situation.

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5 hours ago, perymason said:

I think that nobody cares that you will sell your ticket. Well, except the guy that will buy it - he will be very lucky, I am sure. It's the same as nobody in Europe cares about your Brexit anymore. It's your decision - do whatever you want. Exactly like U2 - they want to wave the EU flag. No matter what you, Farage or whoever from England think about it.

So, chill out. Or simply sell your ticket. At least you will make someone very happy ;)

And by the way, I don't mean to offend you. In that case I am just extremely honest about this situation.

Its cool I appreciate your honesty, its all about opinions. I just don't think they should be waving it over here. I'm not racist or don't hate anything, its

just what I think. I know one thing it could do and that's divide the audience over here, but that's something they have thought about I guess.

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16 hours ago, CorkVegan said:

I don't think that you need to be overly concerned @willo66

The theme of the show is the band's journey from 1980 to here, so while politcs are touched upon the tour isn't any more political than is normal for U2. When politics are mentioned the focus is more on the voters than the politicians. It is a very much "up with people" vibe that encourages people to do better and be better regardless of who they vote for. 

I'm sure that you're going to have a good time in Manchester. Trust them, playing live is their strength. U2 has always exceeded my expectations and delivered a set that was better than I hoped for.

 

I appreciate the comments, thanks I will take more thought into things before spouting off!!

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In the big picture, in the 80's what was cool was the "white flag" as part of the mythos of representing "surrender". That authenticity.

I'm not a big fan of national flags other than sporting events. 

Not a fan of brexit, but the whole EU economy is not in my realm, & I'm skeptical of centralized governments. I understand the breakdown of participatory democracy, and the rise of fascism is a danger in our current political climate of our industrialized world. 

There is a certain responsibility to not be complacent. It's always a challenge to be inclusive in governing, and to be an individual participating in the democratic process without feeling overwhelmed.

 Mass Media often leaves me feeling confused .

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There's a great article Bono wrote. There's a link posted in the Berlin Live Thread. 

He's always up to something!

He says the idea of the EU needs to become a feeling. 

I see he is very involved in this process. I appreciate this.

I'm at the ground level of this, just living my day to day.

 

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