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The show in America was quite political.  I was nervous about the American flag being used until I heard Bono say things that I believe  no matter where I might live;  love; help refugees; fight hatred; stop poverty; fight racism and bigotry; etc.  It's the same message that U2 have always had.

The flag was a small part of the actual show.  I didn't even notice the American flag in Chicago.  I was so into them that it didn't matter I was right by the stage both nights. I must have seen it but It didn't matter.

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They pull it up as a backdrop for the band for 1 song. In Berlin on Friday, it was during New Year’s Day after the estage performance. 

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I forgot to edit my comment above.  It should read as it now does with this added:  I know it's not America, however; we too are divided.

I wish I had remembered to completely edit my comment last night.  Pardon me.  

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On 9/2/2018 at 10:01 PM, Manohlive said:

The show in America was quite political.  I was nervous about the American flag being used until I heard Bono say things that I believe  no matter where I might live;  love; help refugees; fight hatred; stop poverty; fight racism and bigotry; etc.  It's the same message that U2 have always had.

The flag was a small part of the actual show.  I didn't even notice the American flag in Chicago.  I was so into them that it didn't matter I was right by the stage both nights. I must have seen it but It didn't matter.

Oh yeah, the toxic climate as these underlying issues surface and are being challenged. The way people have been treated, especially refugees shows that cruel side of people & really question how the politics get their power.  The outpouring of compassion surely can out-equal that, and U2 definitely channels that energy. 

I'm a practical idealist, and I see U2 as realists, as they are so involved in the big picture. The videos are like a subconscious stream. It's interesting to see what collective images people attach to.

In meditation you clear all that stuff out as impressions as you cultivate compassion. The blank slate. See, there I go again with my idealism.

 

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On 9/3/2018 at 9:30 AM, mich40 said:

They pull it up as a backdrop for the band for 1 song. In Berlin on Friday, it was during New Year’s Day after the estage performance. 

 

On 9/3/2018 at 1:22 PM, Manohlive said:

I forgot to edit my comment above.  It should read as it now does with this added:  I know it's not America, however; we too are divided.

I wish I had remembered to completely edit my comment last night.  Pardon me.  

Maybe US America can just join the EU. ☺

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On 9/3/2018 at 8:30 AM, mich40 said:

They pull it up as a backdrop for the band for 1 song. In Berlin on Friday, it was during New Year’s Day after the estage performance. 

There you have it-go get a beer, use the bathroom and go back into the venue after New Year's Day.  This show is well worth seeing.

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1 hour ago, Manohlive said:

There you have it-go get a beer, use the bathroom and go back into the venue after New Year's Day.  This show is well worth seeing.

Yeah, but then you'd miss the amazing new mix of New Year's Day...

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On 9/5/2018 at 10:45 AM, hestia said:

 

Maybe US America can just join the EU. ☺

Just clarifying this is kind of an anamoly.

I mean a pass on the eurorail, & a thriving economy is good if you can make that mean sustainable in an economic & ecological way. We may see a big shift in the structure of the economy, so fortifying development with an ecologically sound perspective can help in keeping the economy stable. As much as leaders meet, discussing ideologies, there needs to be a plan which respects human rights as well. 

It's a complexity of de-industrialization. How to rebuild a holistic economy.  Being aware that the deindustrializatiin of war is a major mitigating factor.

Now I will stop, before I start sounding like Bono, (or McPhisto , for that matter.)

BTW the plastics in the Ocean & the water system is not good. Big government could be working together on this crisis, then maybe something to believe in...???????

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I was at Hamburg last night and the show was incredible. If you don't want your Manchester ticket, I will happily take it. 

U2 has always let their views be known. You either agree or not but they are not about division. We all go for the music and it is our choice whether to let something we may have a different opinion on ruin a show. That is not U2's doing - that is our choice. The EU flag does feature as some nentioned but its under the theme of unity.  I have no doubt the Manchester show will be very poignant given what tragically happened there. No band does compassion better in places that need it - that is what they bring.  I was glad on the ietour they did not shy away from playing SBS or Raised by Wolves in Belfast (and Dublin). So I would expect the EU flag to feature. I hope you do go and have a great evening.

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