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2 hours ago, Manohlive said:

This is said with nothing but humor:  

The whole show comments, which I totally understand:   Oh boy.  Here we go again...   😀

Assuming it’s one cd as I’m sure they would have made clear if it was 2 it’s likely not going to be the full set. Red Flag Day I’d imagine will be out since it wasn’t included in the broadcast. The rest of the tracks can then be edited down to less than 80 minutes (no encore gaps etc) so it’s possible to fit them all in one cd. I wouldn’t be massively disappointed not to get some of the tracks that have appeared on numerous live releases already but I guess my question would be why not put them all on there? 

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2 hours ago, Manohlive said:

This is said with nothing but humor:  

The whole show comments, which I totally understand:   Oh boy.  Here we go again...   😀

Well, and this response is with both humor and seriousness. The wisdom in the expression “once bitten, twice shy” is at play here.

As we all know, there have been many years here where a gift announcement has been for an item which is wonderful, but the end product ends up not living up to its full potential. 

If you look at the original description for this year’s gift, the singular “CD” is used. Now, this could mean one of two things: 1) “CD” in format (as opposed to vinyl), or 2) “CD” as in 1 CD instead of 2. The full set would require 2 CDs. So, the comments hoping for a full show are completely warranted.

Now, if “CD” in the item description is option #1 above, and the full show is on 2 CDs, then this gift is nothing but glorious; however, if it is option #2 above, that does take the shine off of it quite a bit.

I still never listen to the “Hasta Lá Vista, Baby” CD because it’s not a full show. I just watch the Mexico City DVD if I need a POPMart fix. I just don’t want the same thing to happen here again.

 

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16 minutes ago, dmway said:

Well, and this response is with both humor and seriousness. The wisdom in the expression “once bitten, twice shy” is at play here.

As we all know, there have been many years here where a gift announcement has been for an item which is wonderful, but the end product ends up not living up to its full potential. 

If you look at the original description for this year’s gift, the singular “CD” is used. Now, this could mean one of two things: 1) “CD” in format (as opposed to vinyl), or 2) “CD” as in 1 CD instead of 2. The full set would require 2 CDs. So, the comments hoping for a full show are completely warranted.

Now, if “CD” in the item description is option #1 above, and the full show is on 2 CDs, then this gift is nothing but glorious; however, if it is option #2 above, that does take the shine off of it quite a bit.

I still never listen to the “Hasta Lá Vista, Baby” CD because it’s not a full show. I just watch the Mexico City DVD if I need a POPMart fix. I just don’t want the same thing to happen here again.

 

They did specify double cd when they did the live songs of innocence and experience release, I think they would have done the same here. Why would they undersell it? You could be right in terms of the literal meaning of the description but realistically it’s going to be 1 cd so I’m just hoping they don’t omit songs even when they have the space to include them. If we were really lucky maybe a bonus download or 2 would complete the set. I guess we’ll just need to wait and see. 

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9 hours ago, Manohlive said:

This is said with nothing but humor:  

The whole show comments, which I totally understand:   Oh boy.  Here we go again...   😀

 

7 hours ago, Max Tsukino said:

expected when there's a gift announcement...

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I have to push back these comments a bit.

Complaints here are not unjustified simply because they are made. Every member has paid their dues to express their opinions here on Zootopia on all things U2. Yes, there are opinions on here sometimes that seem strange, but even the ones that may seem strange certainly have the right to exist if the original poster has offered them sincerely. (I've lost count of the number of posts here that confused me, made me laugh, etc.; message boards are message boards - I addressed those posts by clicking somewhere else.)

Basically, our current mini-drama over this release is in the original description - what exactly is meant by "CD" in the original description? As I pointed out in my last post, does "CD" mean "full show on CD instead of vinyl" or does it mean just a single CD? The original Apollo show was a full concert. That's a legitimate issue to seek clarification about. Thus, I sincerely hope that 2 CDs are coming, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting (and expressing) such an outcome.

Well, I hope we get more news soon, hopefully welcome news.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, dmway said:

 

I have to push back these comments a bit.

Complaints here are not unjustified simply because they are made. Every member has paid their dues to express their opinions here on Zootopia on all things U2. Yes, there are opinions on here sometimes that seem strange, but even the ones that may seem strange certainly have the right to exist if the original poster has offered them sincerely. (I've lost count of the number of posts here that confused me, made me laugh, etc.; message boards are message boards - I addressed those posts by clicking somewhere else.)

Basically, our current mini-drama over this release is in the original description - what exactly is meant by "CD" in the original description? As I pointed out in my last post, does "CD" mean "full show on CD instead of vinyl" or does it mean just a single CD? The original Apollo show was a full concert; a single CD release would mean omitting 1/3 to 1/2 of the original performance. That's a legitimate issue to seek clarification about. Thus, I sincerely hope that 2 CDs are coming, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting (and expressing) such an outcome.

Well, I hope we get more news soon, hopefully welcome news.

 

 

They wouldn’t need to omit anything like 1/3 or 1/2 of the show. A cd fits 80 minutes on it. The Apollo was a good bit shorter than the E&I shows. They would only need to omit 1 or 2 songs at most from the Setlist. As I said if gaps which are basically just crowd noise is edited out then the whole performance minus Red Flag Day would fit on 1 disc. If they took out 2 songs they wouldn’t need to edit other bits out but it seems pointless to keep long pauses with only crowd noise bits in. 

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To be honest I always assumed that the Apollo release would be incomplete and edited. That seems to be the norm for U2 nowadays. (Look at the NYC show on JT30 deluxe and Chicago on ATYCLB deluxe).

We are getting previous unreleased live material which hands down beats the thirty year old remixes we've gotten in recent years. Obviously the full show would be ideal but that seems unlikely.

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3 hours ago, Dean Allison said:

They wouldn’t need to omit anything like 1/3 or 1/2 of the show. A cd fits 80 minutes on it. The Apollo was a good bit shorter than the E&I shows. They would only need to omit 1 or 2 songs at most from the Setlist. As I said if gaps which are basically just crowd noise is edited out then the whole performance minus Red Flag Day would fit on 1 disc. If they took out 2 songs they wouldn’t need to edit other bits out but it seems pointless to keep long pauses with only crowd noise bits in. 

Thank you for posting this. I went back to research more info about the show, and you're right - it wasn't as long as normal e&i shows (I corrected my original post to reflect the more accurate info). To have the whole Apollo show without edits, 2 CDs would indeed be needed. At first, I wasn't sure why you were nominating "Red Flag Day" for exclusion; however, I then found out that the show as broadcast by SiriusXM excluded that song. Thus, U2 may be using the SiriusXM broadcast version as the source for a single CD. (I guess U2 wasn't happy with that version of RFD? I wonder why they excluded that song as opposed to a different song.)

Well, I still would hope for a full show; however, if cutting one song makes it a single CD, that may be what they choose. (FWIW, I would rather they spread the whole show over two discs and added a bonus track or two on the second disc - that would be a genuine treat for the U2.com community and a substantive improvement over getting the same show from "alternative" sources.)

Thanks again. Maybe the downloads will include the omitted song/songs, if they go with a single CD. Of course, now I need to squeeze in my customary plea for WAV downloads and not merely mp3s only. 😎

 

 

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2 hours ago, CorkVegan said:

To be honest I always assumed that the Apollo release would be incomplete and edited. That seems to be the norm for U2 nowadays. (Look at the NYC show on JT30 deluxe and Chicago on ATYCLB deluxe).

We are getting previous unreleased live material which hands down beats the thirty year old remixes we've gotten in recent years. Obviously the full show would be ideal but that seems unlikely.

You pointed out one of my pet peeves with the band in general, i.e., their persistent and seemingly unrepentant urge to edit their own live recordings. This is not just true for them nowadays; it has been one of their core operating principles all the way back to UABRS. (BTW, I think you meant to say Boston, and not Chicago, for the ATYCLB deluxe - if your set has the Chicago "Elevation" tour show instead of the Boston show, you have an especially collectible version.)

Back when VHS tapes roamed the Earth, they didn't release a full show without a missing song or two until POPMart. When DVDs took over, their first full show was the Chicago Vertigo show...and they went right back to editing again for the U2360 DVD/BluRay. Fortunately, they have behaved for the i&e and e&i shows.

Well, as I said above, if there are songs missing from the CD, perhaps there will be WAV versions of any missing songs as downloads. One hopes...

 

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