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  1. They erect two small stages for use on just one song. These are erected in the back of the respective Red Zones and are used by Adam and Edge on just one song - Pride - right after they conclude on the smaller e-stage. Adam and Edge "swap sides" from their normal positions on the main stage, such that (as you face the main stage) Adam stands on the small platform to the left and Edge is on the small stage to the right. These two stages are literally simply not there until a small crew of three or four guys magically appears in the respective Red Zones and erects them while the band is on the e-stage at the back of the floor. Then they quickly take them down again after Pride is finished and the band returns to the main stage.
  2. They've also significantly dropped prices in many seating areas.
  3. Max, will that be set up soon? I believe all the presales are now over, correct? Or are there a few still going on?
  4. I can't argue with the statements made in the original post other than the comment about the setlist. I'm sure the band has retained full artistic control over their shows, such that they're the ones deciding what songs they're playing. Other than that, I'd say your general discussion about pricing is pretty spot on. Biggest mistake they're making in the whole scenario, though, is that they continue to price GA tickets well BELOW what the market is willing to pay. I'm pretty sure that this is a band decision, not a Live Nation decision. That forces some of the tickets for seats into the higher price ranges where the market is saying that they shouldn't be, as they're not selling. To have tickets on the floor priced at $76-$80 while everything comparable around them (basically the whole lower level, except for limited view areas where the ticket holders can't see the screens) is priced at $330 or more clearly indicates that these tickets are priced way too low. Those tickets, then, become the ones the resellers most want, as they present the greatest opportunity for good profit margins for their original "investments." Thus the immediate situation where demand (both by real fans and by resellers) outstrips the available supply straight out of the gate at the onsale. If GA's were priced at face values of $200-$250 initially, this problem wouldn't occur and probably all of at least the upper level seats could have been priced more reasonably. Would there have been bitching and moaning from the diehard fans that are used to getting floor tickets at prices below Fair Market Value? Sure. But we wouldn't have been seeing what's going on now ---- overpriced uppers going unsold and diehard fans bitching and moaning because the only way they can get GA tickets is on the resale market at prices that are roughly 200-400% above "face" (where they should have been priced to begin with). The end result is a scenario where the band is "trying to have it's cake and eat it too," because their shows are now overpriced in a lot of areas (making sure that the artist is not "leaving money on the table," as the original post describes) and yet still under priced for the tickets (GA floor tix) that get attendees closest to the stage and band (with the exception of the Red Zone tickets). What we're seeing is proof that you can't do both. Either you price your tickets such that the resale market has some opportunity for re-sellers to potentially make a profit, or you price everything high enough that re-sellers are really taking a risk when they speculate on their ticket "investments" by buying ticket inventory that is pretty much priced at market to begin with. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out by the time the shows occur. At the outset there clearly were some pricing mistakes made. In my opinion the biggest is the continued "under market value" pricing of GA tickets and that can't be corrected, as those tickets are all sold. As for the rest of the unsold inventory, yes, there will definitely be price adjustments taking place - whether "disguised" or obvious - or there will be empty seats at many of these shows. I doubt the latter will be allowed to happen.
  5. Perhaps because it's pretty much impossible to GET a flippin' ticket that $80 section? ;-)
  6. There are different perks associated with different price levels of VIP tickets. Here's the language for the "party" package.... Enjoy your U2 Experience with access to an exclusive pre-show party with features including a Premium reserved price level 1 ticket- Preshow buffet dinner and bar (beer & wine) *food offerings may vary- U2 Tour VIP gift- not available to general public- Access to the VIP merchandise stand- One parking space per order (where available)- Entry into a drawing for a pre show backstage tour- and an On-site VIP concierge. That's the highest level, with the Gold and Silver packages having less attractive seats and less "stuff" (no meal or bar, etc.). But primarily you've just paid $600 for a prime seat. Seriously. The food will be okay, but nothing extraordinary. The bar is strictly beer & wine. The "U2 Tour VIP gift" is probably a special t-shirt or poster. The "VIP merchandise stand" may have a shorter line, but the merch (and prices) are the same at all the other stands. The "entry into the drawing" means one winner (for a party of two people) from all the "party package" purchasers will have to arrive early to get the tour and only certain areas will be visible (it's not like you're going to hang out in the dressing rooms, believe me). Finally that "concierge" is someone who is local, probably not even with the tour, and is provided to answer questions. Such as "where are the closest restrooms?" You will not meet the band.
  7. Totally agree with you. But those are the transgressions of the past. At least this time around we know what we're getting when we buy RZ tickets - IF one chooses to stay in the Red Zone where the ticket is "assigned."
  8. Although the RedZone positions are indeed pretty much crap, I don't believe there's any requirement that a RZ ticket holder has to STAY in the RedZone. Like so many other tours, I'm pretty sure a RZ ticketholder can just mingle in with the rest of the GA crowd. Overpriced? Yeah. But a totally sucky position? Only if you stay there.....
  9. Still looking to trade for Nashville GA tickets. I now also have a single NYC (Madison Square Garden) show #1 seat in Section 2 (right at the end of the floor, in the risers just off the floor) ticket to trade for a Nashville GA if anyone would prefer that ticket.
  10. I'm pretty sure that was me. I couldn't find any specific "section" to post the trade I was offering, so I just started my own topic.
  11. Not sure if "hanging back and wandering" is a feasible option. The GA areas on the arena floors lean toward the crowded side and many will try that approach, so you probably won't be able to simply "move" from one end to the other and actually get anywhere near the band members. Admittedly I only caught one show on the '15 tour (at Madison Square Garden), but we found it best to pick a spot and stick with it. We also got there pretty early (such that we were on line for about an hour before the doors opened). I'm just guessing these shows will be very similar and that moving from one area to another during the show will require moving through a crowd.
  12. True. But this concept of "verified resale" on Ticketmaster itself makes no sense whatsoever. With the quantity of tickets on there, particularly for shows that were NOT sold out yesterday, I am extremely doubtful that these are truly "verified fans" who are reselling tickets. Something extremely fishy is going on here. And to make us all jump through all the "get verified and get your code" hoops to get tickets, yet permit resales THROUGH THE SAME SITE (Ticketmaster) ---- well, this all stinks far worse than a dead, rotting fish!
  13. Nashville & Tulsa (and LI and Newark before that) only seem to have resale. What a flippin' farce!
  14. Live Nation was a promotion company. It never set out to compete with Ticketmaster. Here's an article back when the acquisition (or "merger," as it was labeled by those involved) was announced. But the bottom line was that Live Nation acquired Ticketmaster (as Ticketmaster shareholders were the one's compensated when they gave up their stock). But all the fears expressed by those opposed to the merger have proven quite valid, that's for sure. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ticketmaster-livenation/live-nation-to-buy-ticketmaster-idUSTRE5194DL20090210
  15. Live Nation owns Ticketmaster. That pretty much sums it up right there....
  16. Not sure these resale tickets are inventory they had directly, or if these are indeed tickets that others purchased and are now reselling..... you know, the scalpers that their "verified fan" system prevented from getting tickets. Oh, wait..... This whole thing is insane!
  17. I have no idea. It truly appears that they're making this sh*t up as they go. I've seen a lot of strange on sales over the years, but I think this one pretty much takes the cake.
  18. Well, at least they didn't call everyone "Mrs. Dipshit!"
  19. Nope. They're just trying to move the inventory they had left yesterday when the code sales fell flat. And of course "verified resale" tickets at even HIGHER resale market prices, too. That's a bit like rubbing salt in an open wound. :-(
  20. Check it out, folks. A lot of the shows were pulled offline last night and are now going on "general public sale" this morning at 10 (local times). It appears these will all be WITHOUT codes. I don't expect any new inventory to appear, though. Probably the same high priced seats they couldn't sell yesterday in the "general public verified fan" onsale.
  21. It appears someone has made a "let's change this up" decision, as many of the shows are going on "general sale" WITHOUT CODES today. Or so it seems. Several of them are now showing "general public onsale begins at 10 am today" messages. My guess is that only unsold inventory from the previous sales is going to be available, though. I doubt they'll be adding anything that wasn't available yesterday with codes. Amazing to have seats left for Madison Square Garden with no additional shows on the tour schedule yet. They're all $331 each, but still. Live Nation really screwed up on the pricing for this tour leg!
  22. $795.45 for the pair. (But I should re-emphasize that I am NOT looking to sell them unless I can work a swap for my St. Louis GA tix.)
  23. Usually there's a separate board set up for resellers (at cost) and traders (of equal value swaps), but I don't see one yet for this tour. If I'm missing it and someone can direct me to it, I'd appreciate that. In the meantime, I have four St. Louis GAs that I'm looking to trade for Nashville GAs. Will be hard tickets coming to me in the mail. Of course I don't have them yet, but I'm sure everyone else is in the same situation. If anyone is interested in working a swap (for 1, 2, 3 or 4) please let me know via PM. I'm NOT looking to sell these, so please don't ask. I will have some other Nashville tix to sell (at cost) if I can work a trade, including a pair of RZ 2. Our budget really can't stand to take the hit on those, so I'm preferring GA. Finally, if someone wants to swap a pair of Nashville GA for a pair of Red Zone and pay me the price difference, I can do that, too. Would save the other person some "line time," but other than that I'm not seeing a tremendous advantage for someone willing to make that swap. But I still figure it can't hurt to offer that option. Good luck to everyone ---- hope you land what you want!
  24. Yes, I got four GA tix for St. Louis. In two separate orders. Did this because I thought going for pairs might be more successful than trying for all four at once. Not sure if that actually made any difference, but I can't argue with the end result. I actually don't even want to attend this particular show, as I live in middle-Tennessee and hope to attend only the Nashville show, but I'd already purchased four tix for May 26th and knew my Ticketmaster account wouldn't let me get any more Nashville tix. So ultimately I'm hoping to trade St. Louis GA for Nashville GA as an even swap and the sell my Nashville tix (at cost) to another true fan that needs them. Crazy that I've got 8 tickets for two different shows and nothing is yet what I really want, but that's the way it goes sometimes. Hopefully what I've ordered will actually show up in the mail!
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