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  1. Grateful for the show dedicated to Van Morrison today. Liked Bono's poetic interpretations of the lyrics, and particularly thankful for Adam's bit. I guess 25 songs for those scratching past the surface (like Adam), knowing I could easily do three times that for Van's birthday 1) Streets of Arklow 2) Tir Na Nog 3) Summertime in England 4) Take Me Back 5) Burning Ground 6) Saint Dominic's Preview 7) Come Here My Love 8 ) Enlightenment 9) It's All in the Game/You Know What They're Writing About 10) Orangefield 11) Sweet Thing 12) A Town Called Paradise 13) Ancient Highway 14) One Irish Rover 15) Dweller on the Threshold 16) In the Garden 17) And the Healing Has Begun 18) Wavelength 19) Listen to the Lion 20) Ballerina 21) Linden Arden Stole the Highlights 22) Vanlose Stairway / Trans-Euro Train / Fool for You 23) I Forgot That Love Existed 24) Almost Independence Day 25) When Heart is Open
  2. U2 X-Radio - so glad Edge opened with David Byrne, who I think of as the third point in the three album trinity of BED - Bowie, Eno, and David Byrne. Was a big Talking Heads fan and have followed David since. And the connection has always been there from R&H trying to reach the heights of Stop Making Sense to, yes, on topic - 11 O'Clock Tick Tock as partly inspired by a show U2 opened for the Talking Heads.
  3. This one is fascinating. SOE is going to open up new possibilities for the old songs. Working on a set now.
  4. I'm glad the Bono attempted to make contact, though it's unfortunate the call was cancelled. I'm mostly aligned with the band view, but really want more info. The speech she made saying human rights would be respected did sound like her signalling her position, but that she was on a short leash. Much to pay attention to. Handful of articles: http://daily-sun.com/post/267835/Aung-San-Suu-Kyi-expresses-willingness-to-solve-Rohingya-crisis-in-Trudeau-meeting https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/02/suu-kyi-visits-myanmar-region-torn-rohingya-conflict/824362001/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/13/aung-san-suu-kyi-unveils-relief-plans-for-rohingya-muslims-myanmar https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/11/rohingya-refugees-myanmar-aung-san-suu-kyi-un-report Here's an older one - the situation here tied to her election https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/27/suu-kyi-asylum-burma-australia-rohingya http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-22681192 https://www.yahoo.com/news/suu-kyi-visit-myanmar-refugees-thailand-234617888.html http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18979410 Basically, she's always been speaking about it but guardedly in combination with a hope to bring rule of law (which I read as a something to shift to and away from military rule), which sounds like a political tight rope. It's a conflict that long proceeded her and their status is problematic in part because of a law. That may give her particular difficulties if she's trying to bring rule of law - she'd have to get the law removed, and if you look at that last bbc article that sort of appears to be what she was trying to do democratically from the start. In which case, in any other democracy the pressure belongs on those that didn't back such change, but even then it's not clear rule of law exists in a way that would stop the military in a short amount of time. In other words that democratic government is probably the wrong lever to bring any sort of immediate end to the genocide. It's tragic. Should she speak more directly? I think she should, but that it will end her political career. Does that bring with it the downfall of democracy and hope for rule of law and thereby any real hope of reigning in and bringing rights to the Rohingya? I think no, but it may be her sense of it and might explain why the political speak around the subject and the seemingly horrid balancing of so many lives against her political career.
  5. I'm very concerned about this as a topic and how it's being handled by fans an media. Please correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well maybe), but wasn't this a crisis she originally sought advice from other international leaders on (and there appeared to be little). Again - if I dis-remember that correct me, I could easily be wrong. But, in any event, isn't this an issue of the military / generals again? You know - the people who imprisoned her? Her acting as a governmental leader maybe be on a figurehead basis while the military really is in control again. I'm not seeing reporting on choices she's facing. I'm not seeing reporting indicating collusion with the generals in this matter, and she truly may not have the ability to stop it. How would you proceed? Call on the UN maybe? Basically all I'm seeing is calls to take away her awards and diminish her image on the international stage, which would potentially remove any leverage she might have from her, and play exactly into the generals hands. Again, someone point me to some decent reporting that truly makes the case that she should be the target of the international community's ire. I'll believe it if it's there, but I haven't heard any yet, and am not inclined to condemn her personally from what I've seen so far. And please do not confuse this as prioritizing her personally above a genocide, they are separate issues, both can be addressed, but I'm most concerned that if there's international pressure that it be properly placed.
  6. So, let's start in on the bad - the pre-show GA line controversy for the moment. The band wrote a song about it, you know the one with the line "just gimme what I want and no one gets hurt" (shouldn't say that as some will feel honored) - because that's what it comes down to, people proclaiming the given rules void and naming themselves proclaimers of new rules, in secret, and threatening violence or its approach if their rule isn't adhered to (before the bulk of the crowd shows up of course), and security and the venue both bow when it's clear the numbers are greater than they could prevent violence from. The reality is the venue & security should refuse to pay any attention to the false line, and the question remains open whether there's any recourse here for the bulk of the fans whose only notice is of the original venue announced rules: perhaps a suit for fraud against the perpetrators of the line? Tricky, but possible. Pre-emptive strike by the venue? distributing #s by purchased group of tickets a week prior to the show? Maybe. Just a few more comments in the many out there about this now, though it isn't the first go 'round for this controversy either, and without value in it for the venue or security, the argument turns but changes do not come. What fuels it mostly does seem to be the need for hierarchy among fans - the focus on numbers, objects, contacts, etc. as of central value. Not the art itself of course, not the songs themselves, just how I stand in the reflected light from the art, that belief in a position owed or again self-proclaimed - hate to say it, but the band is not your mirror, you look just the same Then again, some just want position so they can make money. And all this exists in the ever present lip-smacking thunder of the ass kissing going on toward the band, toward moderators, toward site owners in the vie for position, or at least to hide the behind the scenes pettiness. Ah, why do I persist, resist, etc. in this circus? Not because I'm a woman. I'm not. For this tour, yes, purely for nostalgia, to sing along to songs with a couple people whose rooms I used to hang out in 30 years ago and we'd talk about the album and the tour (the original one) while it was still ongoing. But another Lumineers picture to distract you from any controversy...
  7. I'll say some things later. Keep meaning to get back here, but not finding the time. I'll open with a pic of the Lumineers - found them pretty enjoyable, very glad to have seen them.
  8. Need to follow that up with his later comment on soundcheck Mr. Wave - may result in some speculation.
  9. Nice job - curated is so much better than twitter box ticking on songs & phrases, parroting bono, and attempts at notoriety (her vanity) mainly via crowdsourcing. Honestly bored with the bulk of twitter coverage. But that's just me.
  10. Yes, gone with a song - Kite was her favourite. Very important to her in explaining to her family her own feelings. pain - my condolences on your uncle, I'm sorry to hear that.
  11. pain, no worries - not meant to bring you down, and if you don't know her you don't need to react. Just trying to help her Mom out by letting people who did know her know what's up, if we missed them in other media (facebook, etc.). The upside is it shows you there is a loyalty and a support in the friendships of fandom.
  12. For those that know her, met her, enjoyed her love of life and of this band. Karen / Ruby / RubyEuropa (a nice bunch of gals) Entered hospice, and has not awakened. There will be no service. Spare a thought for her during a song.
  13. I wonder how they are gonna combine a SOE tour and special Joshua Tree shows in 2017 Hoping "combine" is avoided as much as possible - 30th JT and separate SOE shows with as little JT material as possible so there's room for the new to breathe.
  14. I'm ready for what's next beyond the tour - let's get 'em through SOE and SOA and then, post-ascent, on to a "Life on Mars" album of music for the red planet's first colonists (whenever that happens) based on Bowie, Kim Stanley Robinson, Yuri Gargarin, Elon Musk, Neil Armstrong, and B & E's time with NASA A song suite to the future
  15. He also leaned off the multiple shows in limited cities approach and stuck to indoors for the moment, so maybe back to 30 or so cities for a North American or European leg? How many are South America, Australia, New Zealand and Japan typically running these days?
  16. From physiological psychology side of things there's an interesting bit of arousal state transference going on there, which is cheaper than conventional marketing. Anyway, I'll be back to comment on this further (though not that specific point).
  17. It may make sense to those at a particular show. That would be an interesting change to the annual "gift" - discs of the show of you choice, maybe defaulting to the show you bought tickets to in the pre-sale. Never happen 'cause of the record company, but it's an interesting thought. Or what about a mini-lithograph from a particular show?
  18. I haven't checked this myself, but from the old days of vinyl the time often seemed in exact and identical versions could have the same or different times listed. This was a problem for people who tried to distinguish different versions by length. ~Twenty seconds though is a big difference and as you note there is a clear difference in the music (as opposed to the two versions of New Year's Day that differ by one instrumental bar of music. In other words, nice catch!
  19. Everyone I've seen post they got tickets supposedly had used their codes already.
  20. A great album dissed by Americans still trying to put on the brakes, tie Bono's hair in a ponytail, and force the Joshua Tree into being an album they never moved beyond. I'd rather hear *anything* off Pop than anything off Joshua Tree (except maybe Red Hill Mining Town or Mothers of the Disappeared which resonates with Pop for me). A set with Iris & Gone (are you still holding on...) would be stunning.
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