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  1. 6 minutes ago, bjwells said:

    FYI - I re-ordered from AMAZON, after Live Nation (U2.com) failed to deliver. I paid the extra $7.00 USD above Prime.....I got it less than 24 hours after ordering. Amazon can deliver the album faster than Live Nation can respond to an email about your (paid for) missing merchandise. Just saying.....

    Live Nation.....may Edge have mercy on your souls!

    bloody good point...... 72 hour window to get a reply to an email, Amazon can deliver at a fraction of the cost before some clown at Live Nation has even opened their inbox

  2. seriously, anything involving Live Nation is guaranteed to be a total shambles!!! pre-ordered deluxe box set on 2nd Nov.... INCLUDING £12 shipping cost (TWELVE POUNDS)  money taken from my account on 2nd November. 6th December, no delivery, no response to 3 emails, can order on Amazon right now and have it delivered tomorrow morning FREE OF CHARGE! this is a complete and utter fecking JOKE!!!     U2 get this fecking sorted, your fans are being treated like absolute SH1T

  3. Like another fan did and posted on this forum last week, I have just spoken with Ticketmaster UK and sure enough they have admitted only a limited number of ticket's and area's are available in the U2 pre-sale. 

     

    Ticketmaster confirmed this is not their fault; it is the fault of the promoter - U2's promoter!

     

    For the 2nd week running, I am being directed to seats in the back corner of Twickenham, which I am not willing to pay £100+ for.

     

    I failed in last week's pre-sale; last week's public sale and now this week's pre-sale - With my two pre-sale failure's ultimately being the fault of U2's promoter - Thank you very much!!!

     

    But why is Twickenham such a problem?!?!?

    The other European venues; Paris for example were a breeze.

     

    What's more, Ticketmaster UK's website is utter cr*p. I want to choose which block I sit in; I don't want them nominating one for me.

     

    I would go standing, but that isn't an option as my mate was recently involved in an accident and can't stand all day.

     

    All in all, a thoroughly depressing ticket-buying experience.

     

    As for the U2.com subscription; what is the point?!?!?!?!?!?!

     

    Letting down the hardcore fans; not good; not good at all.

    I fully agree - I've traveled all over the globe to see them (which I have been prepared to do at HUGE expense) I dont have an issue at the lack of venues, would be far easier for me if the had a Scottish date but that aint gonna happen, over the decades when no Scottish dates have been included I've made treks to London and Dublin on numerous occasions, Cardiff, Paris, Barcelona and bloody New York! what I am NOT prepared to do is make all that effort and massive expense and be lumbered with shit seats in a huge stadium because U2/Ticketmaster cannot get their act together.

  4. There have been numerous issues with the manner in which the pre sales have been handled, or better described as mishandled, and it would really benefit the core membership, if someone can take all the observations that we have made, over the past week, and take it to U2's management.

    Lack of availability

    Lack of suitability

    Lack of information

     

    This issue has been going on for years and no one really cares

    Least of all U2

     

    A lot of millage and money is being put out by fans who, sometimes have other life priorities, and can't always keep up to date with subscriptions.

     

    But to a man keep buying the music and in return, keep being failed by an organisation.

     

    This in now an organisation, who are now more about profits, than the ideals on which they voiced from the top of a speaker stack so many years ago.

     

     

     

     

    I believe we need answers and accountability

    couldn't agree more, however I don't think any answers will be forthcoming... sad fact is that all the venues will sell out and that is all the various parties involved in this tour are bothered about... simple as that. the matter of a significant number of disgruntled, long-term, loyal fans who may not renew their subscriptions pales into insignificance for them as the £ and $ is obviously main driving force...   stopped being about the music and the genuine fans a long long time ago sadly :(

  5. I failed miserably in the general sale on Monday. It was clear that almost all of the tickets had already been sold by the on-sale time, and TM was already referring everyone to their four-times-face-value resale prices.

     

    It's hard to deny that there's something wrong about this. I agree with market-driven prices, and the economics of supply and demand, and all that, but it looks as if the scalpers/resellers have been given excessively preferential access to tickets before 'normal' fans, which has messed up the 'fair competition' for the tickets (a key requirement for balanced market-driven prices). Put simply, the scalpers have been given an advantage, and the 'normal' fans have been screwed as a result. If this is what U2 want, or are happy with, then they are not the guys that I thought they were.

     

    I think that the fan club presale does go some way to addressing this. It gives a limited opportunity for real fans to get tickets (I got some for the added shows in the Wires presale this morning). But I don't think it goes far enough. And I suspect that it's also being exploited by scalpers.

     

    What a sorry, sad state of affairs.

    spot on...

  6. I have no issue with their opinion, what I do have is an issue when they are expressing that opinion without knowing the facts! - as I have stated, I have no issue with supply exceeding demand, that is simple - my issue is why Ticketmaster screwed up with the presale and non members could by premium tickets in teh presale without a code... what is the point of the presale??? my issue is also with Ticketmaster being allowed to hold back large % of tickets for ALL venues and exploit genuine fans by reselling on their sister sites for a VAST profit... question... how far up the tree does this revenue go???  the entire Ticketmaster system is corrupt to the core... it's legalised ticket touting and anyone who thinks the band and not complicit in this charade are simply deluded... I've been the first to defend them over the decades but this has gone WAY WAY too far and we are all being shafted... we have a choice, roll over and accept it (which I have done on numerous ocassions) or decide enough is enough... my own personal position is that I'm not riding the gravy train any longer...   I'll wait on the new album which has been promised for years now but we've been sold another line about world politics delaying it further..... couldnt make it up!

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    complete and utter f@*cking disgrace... 9:00 on the button, no redzone available... TICKETMASTER AND U2, you are a complete disgrace. membership WONT be renewed after 35 years going back to Propoganda days, have seen the band across Europe and USA for decades but this is the finish. this is NOT a case of being unlucky and supply exceeding demand which I would happily accept, this is simply a case of legalised ticket- touting.. thats the presale for both London dates and Dublin with genuine fans being totally shafted and swathes of tickets being creamed off at source by ToutMaster and resold for vast profits on their sister sites... someone want to try and explain why U2 (the band of the people) are simply allowing this to happen to their loyal and genuine fans??? answer is simple... MONEY!  U2 and their management team are completely complicit in this scam and couldnt give a SH1T about us... SIMPLE AS THAT. 

    OK one thing I have to say is that people who are super angry they can't get Red Zone... you are not the only fan trying for Red Zone!  The tix are extremely limited, how many people to you fit in there?

     

    I count myself SUPER lucky that I got for Pasadena, but I certainly could have got GAs or any other ticket I wanted in Red Hill presale.  I know some crazy stuff happened with the first London presale, but I don't believe that Red Hill presale entitled anyone to Red Zone tickets - there are a lot of Red Hill fans that want them this time around...

     

    I do agree with all the other shit for the resale secondary market stuff though, but everyone in Red Hill should have been able to get SOME tickets, maybe not Red Zone though.

     

    I have NO ISSUE with supply exceeding demand, what I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH is Ticketmaster making a complete arse of the European presale of RZ tickets last week and releasing the tickets on Wednesday in the presale WITHOUT the need for a code - ie open to ANYONE??? have we had an explanation or apology - NO! then surprise surprise, RZ tickets appear as if by magic on resale sites for £4K a ticket whilst genuine fans are being exploited!...  and for the record I'm not taking a lecture on the rights or wrongs from a U2 Fan who's first gig was 2009! I've been going to see them live since 1983 and have religiously paid my subscriptions LONG before the days of internet and U2.COM when the fanclub consisted of a quarterly magazine called Propoganda and havent missed a single year for 35 years!  - that was back in the day when the the music was the most important aspect, not 2017 when they trot out another BS lame excuse about Trump/Brexit having to delay the new album until the can see if its 'still relevant' - never heard so much garbage in my entire life! smokescreen after smokescreen

  8. I think that someone needs to look into the legality of TM "flipping" tickets on their sister site as the sale is going on and at hugely inflated prices. They have figured out a way to really screw fans who are desperate and will out of frustration pay the money to ensure they will get to see the band that we all love so much.

     

    This is the last one for me, I too have been doing this for a long time but this is that last straw for me. No more subscriptions, no more of the presale game, no more TM bullshit!

    with you 100%...  membership up in March and WONT be getting renewed. I have spent £000's and £000's over the years on tours across USA, Europe and no end of Limited Edition merchandise, have an entire cupboard full of the stuff but this is the end of the road for me...  lost touch a long time ago and not to mention the recent lame excuse for yet another delay in the album release... I personally couldnt give a shit how 'relevant' it is in these Brexit/Trump times.... it should be about the music, not a political statement... 

  9. Just an FYI that red zone seats are definitely available at the general sale.  I clicked on Red Zone for Philly right when they went on sale and they came up immediately.  So I would suggest definitely trying again at the general sale if not the next resale.

    cheers, but the manner in which this has been handled from the outset has left a very very bad taste in the mouth..... couldnt make it up how much of a shambles it is.... what is the point of a fanclub presale if the tickets are currently unavailable to paying members but end up on general release some days later. corrupt doesnt begin to cover it..  game over as far as I'm concerned :(     

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    I feel your pain, the presale process has been very painful this time round particularly if you were trying to get Red Zone tickets.

    Last week was a shambles for Twickenham, I spent the best part of an hour & ended up going for seats in the end, my mate had more luck this morning & managed to get 3 RZ for the second Twickenham show but it looks like that was down to luck based on what people are reporting on here.

    This time last week I was ready to walk away, I'd had enough of the difficulties that we seem to go through each & every tour at presale time, I'm still not happy about the way things have been handled & the fact that nobody seems willing to get involved or take responsibility for the problems that fan club members have to endure.

    exactly.... a big fat 'silence' on the issues - no acceptance, apology, nothing....  lots of 'sloping shoulders' on here. not acceptable!  still no answer WHY the RedZone tickets were put online for sale in the 'PreSale' last Wednesday WITHOUT the need for your code - 1 week on, we'll just forget about all that and sweep it under the carpet... garbage!

     

    I believe it wasn't fixed for todays presale either, I was trying for Twickenham RZ and you needed to put codes in for other tickets but not VIP Red zone strangely enough.

     

    yep... saw that myself first thing - what a complete and utter shambles...    however in reality, if the gigs all sell out (which the will def do) does anyone care.... simple answer is NO

  11. I feel your pain, the presale process has been very painful this time round particularly if you were trying to get Red Zone tickets.

    Last week was a shambles for Twickenham, I spent the best part of an hour & ended up going for seats in the end, my mate had more luck this morning & managed to get 3 RZ for the second Twickenham show but it looks like that was down to luck based on what people are reporting on here.

    This time last week I was ready to walk away, I'd had enough of the difficulties that we seem to go through each & every tour at presale time, I'm still not happy about the way things have been handled & the fact that nobody seems willing to get involved or take responsibility for the problems that fan club members have to endure.

    exactly.... a big fat 'silence' on the issues - no acceptance, apology, nothing....  lots of 'sloping shoulders' on here. not acceptable!  still no answer WHY the RedZone tickets were put online for sale in the 'PreSale' last Wednesday WITHOUT the need for your code - 1 week on, we'll just forget about all that and sweep it under the carpet... garbage!

  12. complete and utter f@*cking disgrace... 9:00 on the button, no redzone available... TICKETMASTER AND U2, you are a complete disgrace. membership WONT be renewed after 35 years going back to Propoganda days, have seen the band across Europe and USA for decades but this is the finish. this is NOT a case of being unlucky and supply exceeding demand which I would happily accept, this is simply a case of legalised ticket- touting.. thats the presale for both London dates and Dublin with genuine fans being totally shafted and swathes of tickets being creamed off at source by ToutMaster and resold for vast profits on their sister sites... someone want to try and explain why U2 (the band of the people) are simply allowing this to happen to their loyal and genuine fans??? answer is simple... MONEY!  U2 and their management team are completely complicit in this scam and couldnt give a SH1T about us... SIMPLE AS THAT. 

     

  13. Blah, blah, blah. We can bitch if we want. Simple fact. 1. Red Zone in Europe was open to anyone, not Legacy Fan Club Members. THat's bad and could have been prevented with due diligence and not faultly work. 2. There wasn't any apparent Red Zone available for London unless you went through U2.com link after 15 minutes of onsale. That's bad, faulty work. 3. If you only are supposed to go through U2.com to get the proper links, why make them available through ticketmaster.co.uk. Again faulty work. 4. We spend $40-$50 a year on this membership. Other clubs (see Ten Club, $20/year) perform much better. Faulty work. 5. This has happened before, so maybe you'd think they'd straighten it out. Nope. Faulty work. 6. If you clicked on the link on U2.com on a mobile phone, it brought you to the mobile site where Red Zone wasn't available. Once again faulty work.

     

    FYI, Propoganda way better than this....  

     

    Oh, Note 7. Sure seems like the touts have just an equal or better shot than we do. Oh well. Sucks for us. (See Ten Club where the actual Fan Club member has to pick up the tickets in person).

    you are 100% spot on!!! I have no issue if we are simply unlucky un a ballot situation, but this is simply been a complete cock-up from start to finish strewn with basic errors and partners which arent fit for purpose and simply cannot do their job properly (historically every single time!!!)

  14. yep, poor show alround - now have to run the gauntlet again tmrw in Wire Group and poss Mon in Public Sale.... never thought I'd hear myself say this but I'm going to give this a miss, cant be bothered with all the associated hassle, not missed a tour since the opening night of War Tour at The Caird Hall in my hometown Dundee in 1983 but this is last straw...

     

     

     

     

    absolute BS and No response to any of my questions/posts today... my first gig Feb 1983 War Tour and have followed the band cross Europe and USA for DECADES... looks like the 2 nights at Hydro Glasgow on I&E Tour will be my last as so pissed of at being shafted by U2/Ticketmaster with the RZ Presale F@*K UP today.. this is the last straw, been a member since the inception of the U2.com fansite and prior to that a 'Propoganda' subscriber... wont be renewing my membership when up for renewal in March, far far to easy to push the queries towards TM and absolve themselves of any responsibility/ownership of the issues today.... very very poor indeed

     

    So sorry to hear you've had problems today too msw.  Can totally relate.  Didn't see your posts before but I'm sure mods here are doing their best to keep up. 

     

    I disagree though - This isn't a U2.com issue but a TM issue.  Wish U2 + U2.com could get TM to have ONE presale go smoothly for fans.  This is the worst I've personally experienced. 

     

     

    RZ presale was a shambles, no code required in a presale... seriously?  thats their bloody job to get the basics right and a huge cock-up has left genuine fans without tickets whilst random non members were allowed to freely buy them without a code, absolute disgrace!  and apparently there are further RZ tickets to be released in Wire presale and then Public Sale... WHY??? where is the loyalty to the longterm fans?    ALL areas should be first and foremost available to the longterm fans and IF and only IF there are tickets remaining then they should be released in the second and third phases.... THAT isnt a TM decision, that should be a directive from U2

     

    Didn't know that about RZ.  I agree with the above (bolded - my emphasis) I'm empty handed for GA here.

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    respectfully, someone needs to make it their business to find out.... that was over 12 hours ago and NO response????  are further RZ tickets available in Wire group? are more Pitch 2 tickets available in Wire group, all very understandable queries given the complete disaster this morning and no clarification on any of these points

    It has been reported...

     

    There might be RZ tickets available in the Wire group, but if these are available it won't be as many as it was for today's presale. Same with Pitch 2.

     

    I can't go further on quantities because it is information I can't access - it's on the Ticketmaster side. You may need to contact them for any clarification you nee

    thanks - the lack of clear information is beyond belief...  no idea where the issue lies but as a paying fanclub member for decades I believe we deserve far better treatment than this... things happen for a reason... a weekend in Dublin with RZ tickets would cost in region of £2K with flights and decent hotel etc so should probably spend that money on something more worthwhile given this shabby situation... sadly some 34 years since my first gig would appear to be it.

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    still absolutely NO clarification - VERY VERY unhappy.... I have NO issue if I was just unlucky and demand in the presale simply exceed supply however this was clearly not the case... one simple question which I would appreciate an answer to ASAP...

     

    "WHY WERE THE RED ZONE TICKETS FOR DUBLIN GIG AVAILABLE FOR SALE TODAY WITHOUT THE UNIQIUE U2 PRESALE CODE"

     

    simple question, can this please be answered..... ???

     

    we dont know.

     

    respectfully, someone needs to make it their business to find out.... that was over 12 hours ago and NO response????  are further RZ tickets available in Wire group? are more Pitch 2 tickets available in Wire group, all very understandable queries given the complete disaster this morning and no clarification on any of these points

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    absolute BS and No response to any of my questions/posts today... my first gig Feb 1983 War Tour and have followed the band cross Europe and USA for DECADES... looks like the 2 nights at Hydro Glasgow on I&E Tour will be my last as so pissed of at being shafted by U2/Ticketmaster with the RZ Presale F@*K UP today.. this is the last straw, been a member since the inception of the U2.com fansite and prior to that a 'Propoganda' subscriber... wont be renewing my membership when up for renewal in March, far far to easy to push the queries towards TM and absolve themselves of any responsibility/ownership of the issues today.... very very poor indeed

     

    So sorry to hear you've had problems today too msw.  Can totally relate.  Didn't see your posts before but I'm sure mods here are doing their best to keep up. 

     

    I disagree though - This isn't a U2.com issue but a TM issue.  Wish U2 + U2.com could get TM to have ONE presale go smoothly for fans.  This is the worst I've personally experienced. 

     

    RZ presale was a shambles, no code required in a presale... seriously?  thats their bloody job to get the basics right and a huge cock-up has left genuine fans without tickets whilst random non members were allowed to freely buy them without a code, absolute disgrace!  and apparently there are further RZ tickets to be released in Wire presale and then Public Sale... WHY??? where is the loyalty to the longterm fans?    ALL areas should be first and foremost available to the longterm fans and IF and only IF there are tickets remaining then they should be released in the second and third phases.... THAT isnt a TM decision, that should be a directive from U2

  18. absolute BS and No response to any of my questions/posts today... my first gig Feb 1983 War Tour and have followed the band cross Europe and USA for DECADES... looks like the 2 nights at Hydro Glasgow on I&E Tour will be my last as so pissed of at being shafted by U2/Ticketmaster with the RZ Presale F@*K UP today.. this is the last straw, been a member since the inception of the U2.com fansite and prior to that a 'Propoganda' subscriber... wont be renewing my membership when up for renewal in March, far far to easy to push the queries towards TM and absolve themselves of any responsibility/ownership of the issues today.... very very poor indeed

  19. absolute BS and No response to any of my questions/posts today... my first gig Feb 1983 War Tour and have followed the band cross Europe and USA for DECADES... looks like the 2 nights at Hydro Glasgow on I&E Tour will be my last as so pissed of at being shafted by U2/Ticketmaster with the RZ Presale F@*K UP today.. this is the last straw, been a member since the inception of the U2.com fansite and prior to that a 'Propoganda' subscriber... wont be renewing my membership when up for renewal in March, far far to easy to push the queries towards TM and absolve themselves of any responsibility/ownership of the issues today.... very very poor indeed

  20. still absolutely NO clarification - VERY VERY unhappy.... I have NO issue if I was just unlucky and demand in the presale simply exceed supply however this was clearly not the case... one simple question which I would appreciate an answer to ASAP...

     

    "WHY WERE THE RED ZONE TICKETS FOR DUBLIN GIG AVAILABLE FOR SALE TODAY WITHOUT THE UNIQIUE U2 PRESALE CODE"

     

    simple question, can this please be answered..... ???

  21. I am beyond pissed off about this, no RZ loaded because TM screwed then when they were loaded no code was required, nice touch really nice.

    Messed about so much the GA tickets were sold out so have ended up with seats, not what I wanted but what are you supposed to do, risk leaving it till the general onsale which will be an even bigger cluster f*ck than this morning.

    Every time I say I'm done with this crap & every time I come back for more, I think this may well be the last straw.

    100% agree mate... same as you - genuinely reckon I'll actually give it a miss and spend the money on a nice holiday in the sun.... first tour missed since War Tour but had enough of this garbage

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