Dean Allison

Could be divisive here but I think a good solution going forward is to offer more with the Subscription digitally only for download and then have the physical versions available to buy on the site and subscribers get to use their discount on them. So for example next year is the 30th anniversary of zootv. In a standard year getting a show on cd or dvd would seem pretty good. However with a subscription only covering the digital part we could get Stockholm 92 to stream and download in HD, Dublin 93 to download the audio from and maybe Yankee stadium which was very likely had both nights filmed in full not just the documentary version which isn’t a full gigs length and features bits in between the songs that personally ruins it for me. So that’s not a bad amount of previously unreleased content, then on the site make them available just to buy for the general public in both digitial and/or download. Subscribers could also buy them but with the 25% discount used could get some more value that way as well. I’d be more than happy to £30 roughly for the subscription and then maybe the same again roughly to get the physics gifts so £60 for 3 shows in a combination of cd and dvd/blu Ray perhaps. I know this isn’t the idea’s thread but I think it’s related in a way to make the subscription value still and making these custom charges more of an optional thing with the physical items.

I’d be prepared for something underwhelming. How nobody from the band or their management has managed to figure out that there are several amazing zoo tv shows that could be released to commemorate the album I’ll never know. We’re not talking crazy obscure shows there’s shows like Stockholm 92 which there has to be footage of they could upscale and release. There’s Dublin 93 which was broadcast on the radio. There’s all the bits from Yankee stadium that were recorded/filmed. We’re not talking about average performances either, these are all great shows and feature different Setlists to the Sydney show which was more Zooropa heavy. I can sort of understand the band not wanting to release just everything and anything when it comes to live stuff but I’ll never understand them releasing so few great shows that we know exist.

If it’s being described as a gift when we subscribe which it has been then it should be declared as a gift for customs purposes too. If that would bring up a legal issue then it would 100% have to be described as a purchase which is how I’ve always seen it anyway tbh, the term gift is to make it sound like goodwill of sorts which to me it isn’t in fact in a non tour year it’s the only reason I subscribe but they can’t have it both ways with the publicity of calling it a ‘gift’ whilst not declaring it as such with customs.

I think at this stage there has to at least be a change to the terminology of the fanclub ‘gift’ which it never has been imo. Particularly in non tour years these so called gifts have been the main incentive. Either they send the items as a gift with a value of zero or they can change the wording. I’m from the UK I should add so this hasn’t directly impacted me but I don’t like the fact people have paid more than me to receive the exact same subscription and gift. They need to come up with some solution anyway.

Got the cd through the post today. Impressive looking item. I’d listened to the show already when the downloads became available, enjoyed them as well. Another great subscriber gift despite my previous complaints about downloads which still stand. Hopefully they can keep the standard this high going forward. .

What I’d like to add to show I’m not trying to be doom and gloom all the time. I’m happy with the gift, a full gig on 2cd’s is decent, I think there’s still room for a little more value for money with the subscription but value for money is not my main priority when subscribing it’s about getting a good gift with a substantial amount of music and also getting priority for tickets in your years. So I’m happy with the gift itself. I’m even happy with the shipping starting in August but with the conditions of not announcing an earlier shipping date (which they did) and the big one that you could have guessed, giving us all the downloads straight away. But the gift itself is a thumbs up.

You’ve said as much before. What me and other subscribers are saying is regardless of there reasons we disagree with it and should give us all the downloads as soon as we (re)subscribe. And yes they clearly are just continuing to do things as they see fit, that much is very clear which is a good way to keep a lot of us dissatisfied. Likewise whilst they continue to do as they see fit we’ll continue to complain regardless of their reasons. As paying subscribers we have that privilege. It’s exactly that ‘continuing as they see fit’ which is u2.com’s biggest problem. As a fan club the main aim should be to please the fans not be fine with keeping many unhappy for whatever reasons they see fit.

There’s the sensible way to do things and then there’s the u2.com way.

They could have still promoted it by saying here’s this years gift which will be dispatched ‘later in the year’ at least then there’s flexibility with the dates then they could have given us all the downloads at once. It’s nothing short of crazy, stupid whatever similar term you can think of that they don’t give us all the downloads when we resubscribe. The physical gift I’m happy to receive in August, that’s fine, but don’t say it’s going to start shipping in July. Only a few days out but still between announcing July as the start date for shipping and by not giving us all the downloads at this point it has led to them once again taking the shine of a good item. I’ll still be glad when it arrives, I’ll still enjoy listening to the songs but it won’t make me forget the fact they mucked us around for months waiting on downloads and still got the shipping month wrong, albeit only just.

Would be nice to get some word of what’s going on. Has shipping actually began yet, In July like they stated? Or are there delays again like several years in the past? We’re way short on the downloads as well which I will keep on bringing up because it’s quite frankly a disgrace. Hopefully this comment doesn’t get blocked like a few of my others. I’m guessing if I had only positive things to say all my comments would be allowed.

They accidentally it seems offered the first 3 tracks for about 24 hours or less perhaps. So I Will Follow, The Electric Co and Out Of Control. They then replaced them for Red Flag Day, Angel Of Harlem and Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses. Then they added another 3, The Electric Co,All Because Of You and Stuck In A Moment. As The Electric co had already briefly been made available that was a total of 8 different songs. That’s what I and many others have downloaded but I’m guessing you don’t have access to I Will Follow and Out Of Control because you missed the boat so to speak and they are now for no good reason making you wait to receive these downloads along with the rest that none of us have yet received.

They’ve still technically got 15 days to start shipping and be on time which is fine. It’s the downloads that should be with us. They’ve announced 6 downloads but really it’s 8, why they try and hide that fact is silly really. So they’ve likely got all the tracks ready but just won’t give us them, maybe we’ll get the option in future to pay our subscription in instalments as well since they seem to be happy only giving us downloads in instalments.

Big fan of this. As others have mentioned it just feels like the song we need right now. Love it.

charleswise you are absolutely correct. If I wanted to right now I could renew again which would take my membership to 2023 and in doing so I would surely be entitled to the 2022 subscription gift otherwise what else would I be adding another year for.

Not going to lie despite my annoyance at not having all the downloads the ones we do have really are great. Listened to them a good few times already. The opening boy trio just highlights the strength of that album and they particular songs and how well they’ve aged, sounding as good as ever if not better. Red Flag Day is the best version I’ve heard of the song, Angel of Harlem sounds great with the orchestra something regular tour versions miss and Wild Horses is just quite frankly exceptional. Really great stuff.