afg 17 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, james busick said: The venues ALWAYS end up endorsing the fan-run line, so it comes down to join it or go to the end of it. Not always. They didn't on the JT tour. But I agree, it happens most times and that is a big part of the problem, as highlighted many times on this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subscriber james busick 38 Posted May 16, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, afg said: Not always. They didn't on the JT tour. But I agree, it happens most times and that is a big part of the problem, as highlighted many times on this forum. At the end of the day, I think the venues couldn't care less about what is fair. They just want to do whatever is easiest for them. When they see a line of several hundred people already formed prior to their "official" lineup time, the easiest thing for them to do is just go ahead and move that line to the official spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subscriber JCF 121 Posted May 17, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted May 17, 2018 16 hours ago, afg said: Not always. They didn't on the JT tour. But I agree, it happens most times and that is a big part of the problem, as highlighted many times on this forum. Hmmm...I'm pretty sure they did. At least, at the shows I attended in the US northeast, they did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subscriber Manohlive 2,333 Posted May 17, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 1:56 PM, james busick said: At the end of the day, I think the venues couldn't care less about what is fair. They just want to do whatever is easiest for them. When they see a line of several hundred people already formed prior to their "official" lineup time, the easiest thing for them to do is just go ahead and move that line to the official spot I don't want to get involved in the argument. I emphatically stated my views. The venues are generally not responsible for the GA line yet send security because nobody else is doing it. Remember that the venues rent to the promoters. The promoters set the rules, not the venues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subscriber dermo 57 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Subscriber Share Posted May 22, 2018 Well having attended the Las Vegas shows and doing GA for Saturday I still feel that fan run 'queues' are not the way GA entry should be done. Mr Oseary indicated a willingness to engage with fans some months ago and this is one area that might benefit from such engagement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afg 17 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, dermo said: Well having attended the Las Vegas shows and doing GA for Saturday I still feel that fan run 'queues' are not the way GA entry should be done. Mr Oseary indicated a willingness to engage with fans some months ago and this is one area that might benefit from such engagement. AGREED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subscriber 504jumper 38 Posted May 22, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted May 22, 2018 At SAP Center in San Jose, they gave out wristbands. I always thought that was the best way for the GA line. Everyone gets a wristband, they can stay at the venue or leave, and the come back a couple of hours before the doors opened. There wasn't any argument about who got there first or situations where one guy was holding spots for 10 other people who showed up at 5:00 pm. I've seen that before and it got a little ugly. In San Jose, everyone was cool--no attitudes or animosity. Event staff was professional, courteous and did a nice job marshalling people along. We arrived at SAP at 9:00 am and there were about 200 people ahead of us. But, we still got a spot in the rail. By the time the doors opened, there were a few hundred people behind us. I've never liked the No Wristband system. It made it so much easier for people to get into it with each other. I remember the 360 Tour in Oakland. This is one couple literally held 10 spots for there friends. It generated so much frustration and tension in the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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