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  1. ceallach67 wrote: graysobe wrote: ...and to add to that last post, Live Nation (who I still feel is the real culprit) should have adamantly opposed any change in the date..... I'm assume that they already had a contract in place with the New York-New Jersey Sports Authority concerning the date, and they certainly had a contract with the fans! ----- Pulled directly from their annual report: ITEM 1.BUSINESS Our Company We are the largest producer of live music concerts inthe world. In 2008, we connected over 52 million live music fans with their favorite performers atapproximately 22,000 events in 33 countries around the world and drove over 72 million unique visitorsto livenation.com. Globally, we own,operate, have booking rights for and/or have an equity interest in 159 venues,including House ofBlues® music venues and prestigious locations suchas The Fillmore in San Francisco, the Hollywood Palladium, the Heineken Music Hall in Amsterdam and theO2Dublin.
  2. Clur wrote: andy scotson wrote: It strikes me that with the statement that has been published on U2.com, coupled with the other evidence that the game time was shifted back in April, the band or promoters might have left themselves open to legal action. That would really depend on what the promoters had actually done in the intervening months when they were aware that there was a problem. The time could have been spent trying to persuade the venue/authorities it wouldn't be an issue or even trying to prevent the event from being canceled completely and trying to come to some sort of settlement with a revised date. If they can prove they have been trying to work in the best interests of the fans during that time period then I think they probably would have a legitimate defense in arguing why there was such a delay in the announcement, if there was court action brought. The whole idea of a court case is crazy from someone the other side of the Atlantic though. It just wouldn't happen outside the US or even be considered. It would very much be a case of lumping it. On the flip side, why on earth boycott the show if you are able to still go though? I don't get what people are actually trying to prove here. Get a refund if you want, but the show is great and if you really wanted to see u2 that much in the first place that you spent the $ to do it, just go and enjoy the show! Of course its a little different if you have lost money in reservations and now can't afford to go, which I totally appreciate and have sympathy for, but boycotting the show as a protest? Don't get it. Perhaps I am alone in this sentiment - I view going to gigs as a life experience rather than a consumer right - and the bumps along the way, as part of an experience of being a fan as well as the euphoric highs. I guess I'm odd though! P.S. Spare a thought for the 80,000 Michael Jackson fans who originally bought tickets from all over the world and to go to the first of the 02 dates, which he had already rescheduled once 'due to technical difficulties' before his death. Unless they went though a tour operator, they got no refund for other expenses. That's potentially a lot of fans who would have bought flights, booked hotels etc twice... I gotta kick this excuse to the curb.... A death, accident, weather, etc. are all unforseen events.....THIS ONE WAS KNOWN FOR ALMOST HALF A YEAR! If any one of the band members dies within the month,I'm sure I'll be a lot more understanding....unless that happens though, you can be sure I'm going to express my displeasure through anyoutlet.
  3. nobodyl wrote: I sent a letter of complaint to LiveNation, received response below. Talk about taking no responsibility whatsoever !! <<Dear John, Thank you for contacting Live Nation Customer Care with your inquiry. Live Nation is proud to promote and produce this event, but we are not selling tickets for the event. Please contact the venue box office, or review the artist's web site for more information on where to file your complaint. The only part Live Nation had in this event, was providing the funds for U2 to hold the event at that stadium. Sincerely, Julian Live Nation Customer Care>> Well, let's see....Ticketmaster is the person who sold me my ticket.....but wait, who owns ticketmaster? Oh, they merged with Live Nation?!!! Wow, now who do I go to?
  4. drbushinger wrote: New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority Public Affairs Office 50 State Route 120 East Rutherford, N.J. 07073 To Whom It May Concern: I was notified that the U2 concert at Giants Stadium, scheduled for Friday 9/25/09, has been rescheduled to Wednesday 9/23/09 due to a scheduling conflict with the NY Jets. In order to accommodate for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, which begins at sundown on Sunday September 27, a decision was made to move the Jets' game time from 4:30pm to 1pm. As I understand it, the staging for the U2 show requires 2 days for disassembly. This 3 hour shift apparently interfered with what I can only assume is a very tight schedule for the U2 staging crew. Therefore, in order to eliminate conflicting usage of Giants Stadium, U2 management decided or agreed to reschedule the U2 concert to Wednesday. This scheduling conflict and subsequent rescheduling is inexcusable. First of all, I am not entirely sure why the NY Jets feel compelled to move a football game because of a religious holiday. It sets a misguided precedent. If sports teams throughout the country were to adopt this type of scheduling policy, there would be no sports on Friday nights after sundown and no sports of any kind on Saturdays. To be thoroughly respectful of Christian faith, no sports games should be scheduled for Sundays at all. In fact, one could argue that moving the Jets game to 1pm is inconsiderate to Catholic Jets fans who wish to attend High Mass at noon. While it is certainly gracious of the Jets to accommodate their schedule for their Jewish fans that wish to celebrate Yom Kippur, it is unnecessary. One's religion should take priority over sports; if it doesn't, then I suppose those fans that choose sports over their religion would buy tickets to a Jets game regardless of when it's scheduled. Furthermore, if the Jets and the NJSEA choose to change their game schedules for one religion, they should do so for all religions equally and in the same manner. Furthermore, the Jets and the NJSEA had 4 months to make this change - Yom Kippur has been on the calendar for quite some time. You chose to make your change and notify ticket holders within a month of the concert. U2 fans that have made travel and scheduling arrangements are now out of luck because of your poor judgment and scheduling incompetence. I expect a detailed explanation of your decision regarding this matter in timely manner. Thank you. I made some changes so that it would be more appropriate to send to the AttorneyGeneral's office in New Jersey. copy and paste, enter your name http://www.nj.gov/lps/formmail.htm ------------------ To Whom It May Concern: I was notified that the U2 concert at Giants Stadium, scheduled for Friday 9/25/09, has been rescheduled to Wednesday 9/23/09 due to ascheduling conflict with the NY Jets. In order to accommodate for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, which begins at sundown on Sunday September 27, a decisionwas made to move the Jets' game time from 4:30pm to 1pm. As I understand it, the staging for the U2 show requires 2 days for disassembly. This 3 hour shiftapparently interfered with what I can only assume is a very tight schedule for the U2 staging crew. Therefore, in order to eliminate conflicting usage ofGiants Stadium, U2 management decided or agreed to reschedule the U2 concert to Wednesday. This scheduling conflict and subsequent rescheduling is inexcusable.Many of the attendees are not from the New York/New Jersey area, and have made costly lodging and transportation plans in which many of them arenon-refundable. The U2 event was the impetus behind a visit to the New Jersey/New York region, and its rescheduling mayresult in cancelled visit and forfeiture of services paid for. This impact on the on the visitors could result in alasting negative memory of the region, and will certainly result in a loss of spending in the area. If these chain of events have shown anything, it is that Live Nationhas been extremely irresponsible in resolving the time conflict in a much more timely manner, and therefore inconsiderate of their customers who are U2fans. We urge you to investigate the matter further to and possibly seek retribution for damages inflicted as a resultof the event's rescheduling. This billion dollar company clearly believes that it is immune from legalramifications of violating the rights of the average individual, and we sincerely hope that the Attorney General's office of New Jersey does notagree. Respectively Yours, XXXXXXX, A U2 Fan
  5. http://www.oag.state.ny.us/ Express your displeasure with the attorney general's office. Cuomo likes fighting on behalf of us little guys in exchange for good publicity. Besides, ifcancellations lead to less money being spent in NYC, the city has a stake in it, too.
  6. ...and to add to that last post, Live Nation (who I still feel is the real culprit) should have adamantly opposed any change in the date..... I'm assume that they already had a contract in place with the New York-New Jersey Sports Authority concerning the date, and they certainly had a contractwith the fans!
  7. jbonse007 wrote: That's strange..... There are 6 NFL games scheduled after 4:00pm EST on Sunday.........are they being rescheduled? I actually read about this awhile ago (but didn't think it would really interfere with the concert). Really, the NFL dropped the ball by having the Jetsplay a regular season game at home that week. The Yom Kippur-Rosh Hashanah holidays are messing everything up this year since NY-NJ has the highestconcentration of Jews in the U.S., and I'm sure many of them own football season tickets. Either the Jets and Giants should have had away games (so thatthe NYNJ Sports Authority didn't lose a ton of money and invite the ire of season ticket holders), or they should have been given a bye week.
  8. Jon01 wrote: This just doesn't cut it guys. You should have seen this coming way earlier. We will get our tickets refunded, but hotel arrangments etc. At the time the NFL schedule was ready someone should have seen this. We should have seen this way earlier? How do you figure? Cuz I think the Jets suck and I want to look at their schedule as soon as it comes out? The AFC isfor losers....Go Big Blue!
  9. I can't believe this NY show is being rescheduled to Wednesday! I made a bunch of arrangments for that Friday show considering that it's on theweekend. I am traveling from Boston to New York and made hotel arrangements and all just to have a great U2 weekend. Now what?! Go to the Wednesday show? Take an extra two days off from work? Add another two days at a hotel for $400? Cancel everything and get stuck payingfor nothing? Live Nation should have done a better job telling the Jets that they should find some other time to schedule the Yom Kippur game. I'mJewish, so no disrepect, but I'm sure most observing Jews could have made a Monday Night game since only the first night is of extreme importance. Anyone else sore about this?
  10. I can't believe this NY show is being rescheduled to Wednesday! I made a bunch of arrangments for that Friday show considering that it's on theweekend. I am traveling from Boston to New York and made hotel arrangements and all just to have a great U2 weekend. Now what?! Go to the Wednesday show? Take an extra two days off from work? Add another two days at a hotel for $400? Cancel everything and get stuck paying fornothing? Live Nation should have done a better job telling the Jets that they should find some other time to schedule the Yom Kippur game. I'm Jewish, sono disrepect, but I'm sure most observing Jews could have made a Monday Night game since only the first night is of extreme importance. Anyone else sore about this? -------------------- So that everyone sees this, please send an email to the New Jersey Attorney General's Office at the link posted below. copy and paste, enter your name at the bottom http://www.nj.gov/lps/formmail.htm ------------------ To Whom It May Concern: I was notified that the U2 concert at Giants Stadium, scheduled for Friday 9/25/09, has been rescheduled to Wednesday 9/23/09 due to ascheduling conflict with the NY Jets. In order to accommodate for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, which begins at sundown on Sunday September 27, a decisionwas made to move the Jets' game time from 4:30pm to 1pm. As I understand it, the staging for the U2 show requires 2 days for disassembly. This 3 hour shiftapparently interfered with what I can only assume is a very tight schedule for the U2 staging crew. Therefore, in order to eliminate conflicting usage ofGiants Stadium, U2 management decided or agreed to reschedule the U2 concert to Wednesday.This scheduling conflict and subsequent rescheduling is inexcusable.Many of the attendees are not from the New York/New Jersey area, and have made costly lodging and transportation plans in which many of them arenon-refundable. The U2 event was the impetus behind a visit to the New Jersey/New York region, and its rescheduling may result in cancelled visit andforfeiture of services paid for. This impact on the on the visitors could result in a lasting negative memory of the region, and will certainly result in aloss of spending in the area. If these chain of events have shown anything, it is that Live Nationhas been extremely irresponsible in resolving the time conflict in a much more timely manner, and therefore inconsiderate of their customers who are U2 fans.We urge you to investigate the matter further to and possibly seek retribution for damages inflicted as a result of the event's rescheduling. This billiondollar company clearly believes that it is immune from legal ramifications of violating the rights of the average individual, and we sincerely hope that theAttorney General's office of New Jersey does not agree. Respectively Yours, XXXXXXX, A U2 Fan
  11. I can't believe this NY show is being rescheduled to Wednesday! I made a bunch of arrangments for that Friday show considering that it's on theweekend. I am traveling from Boston to New York and made hotel arrangements and all just to have a great U2 weekend. Now what?! Go to the Wednesday show? Take an extra two days off from work? Add another two days at a hotel for $400? Cancel everything and get stuck payingfor nothing? Live Nation should have done a better job telling the Jets that they should find some other time to schedule the Yom Kippur game. I'mJewish, so no disrepect, but I'm sure most observing Jews could have made a Monday Night game since only the first night is of extreme importance. Anyone else sore about this?
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