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Hey Manohlive, my pleasure It always astonishes me how much people bitch & complain without doing it directly to the source of the problem. And you are correct, it can be surprising how often this feedback actually works.

I just added the Facebook suggestion too, should have mentionned it before, as it is probably now the most direct & effecient way of doing it in today's social media driven PR

And yeah, Larry got involved in the Vertigo tour pre-sale debacle, but I think the letter he wrote was to let us know that the band had forced Ticketmaster to re-boot the 1st pre-sale, to categorize the fan club members depending on the length of membership. If I recall correctly, the fan club/U2.com had just changed to a new platform right before the pre-sale & there were no longer different membership categories, longterm, medium term, short term etc. So after his involvement, the original Propaganda members got best category, then the rest of us were split in 2 other categories, long term post-Propaganda & shorter term or recently paid members. I don't remember getting xtra pre-sale tix or chances at pre-sales tix.

Anyways, that's how I remember it, but I could be wrong on some of the details

Cheers!!     

Good article & advice for people still hoping to bag tix .... + I would add that on many occasions I have bagged tickets at below cost a few days prior to the concert (just take a look at some of those resale prices, don't worry, those asking prices will be waaaayyyy down by show time) 

You heard it here 1st  http://www.atu2.com/news/i-didnt-get-u2-tickets-what-now.html

Hello All, just a semi-commentary.

Yes Ticketmaster really really sucks. Yes Ticketmaster is owned by Live Nation. Yes, Ticketmaster's selling of tickets process is often times very poor & frustrating.

As the Forum Moderators have done (these brave folks have the patience of Angels ), in several posts re. the JTT ticket purchase issues, see below some links to write or call with your displeasure to Ticketmaster directly.

And of course, probably the best, most visible & quickest way to let Ticketmaster &/or Live Nation know your displeasure is to comment directly on their Facebook page.... nothing strikes more fear in a Corporate entity like trashing them for all to see on Facebook!

I would be curious to know how many people actually write or call directly to Ticketmaster, the source of the many ticket purchase problems, as opposed to just vehemently complaining on these forums while trashing the band for this state of affairs.

Every tour it is the same thing/problem, so get out your best writing & diplomatic conversation skills people!

Cheers!! 

http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/customer-service.html?tm_link=help_nav_4_contact

https://help.ticketmaster.co.uk/how-do-i-contact-customer-services/

http://www.ticketmaster.com/international?tm_link=tm_homeA_changeloc_intl

Did you not verify where the seats were on the venue map before you bought them?? .... it is clear where those seats are located in relation to the stage.

I just tried for Pasadena, just for the hell of it, got GA no problem, used the mobile app.....

 

U2 don't hate Montreal's Olympic Stadium, in fact it is well known that it is at that stadium that U2 realised they are good enough to do stadiums, back in the '80's. They have done Joshua Tree 87, Zoo TV and POP Mart at that stadium. 

The reason they did not go to the stadium in 2011 was mainly the size of the 360 Claw-stage, specifically the center spire that would not fit in the now roof covered stadium. They were other technical issues as well, but it was mostly the spire not fitting under the stadium roof, it was too complicated from an engineering standpoint to lower the spire by shortening the legs of the claw.

 

They could easily play the Olympic Stadium for JTT 2017.

If what you say is accurate...they shouldn't love the Big O these days.  In the 80's, the Big O didn't have a roof on it, so it might have been OK.  The sonics are so bad now at the Olympic Stadium that you can't even understand what's being said over a PA system.  The sound at Popmart was horrendous, whereas the sound at 360 (outside) was fantastic, and the sound at the Bell Centre is passable.

 

Hey Counting, I'll give you that, the Big Owe sound is pretty crappy.... I saw them there for JT'87 + I saw them there for Zoo TV, if I recall the sound was ok'ish for a cavernous place even for Zoo, like all shows there it depends were you are seating.

Although I can't confirm, I'm thinking most closed roof stadiums built in the 70's or 80's would all be bad for concert sound, maybe even all of them. Wonder what Skydome sounds like... do they open the roof for concerts when it is not raining?

I saw POP Mart at BC Place (was living in Vancouver at the time), the roof there at that time was just a light canvas held up by air pressure, (not like the Big O's roof which is steel/concrete to the middle o-ring of the kevlar tarp), and the sound there was also ok'ish probably cause I was on the floor not too far from the stage.

Lots of shows/other artists have still been done at the Big O after POP Mart, I have'nt seen a show there since some Canada Day celebration MTL & Toronto Symphanies played there in like '94-'95 (again ok'ish sound for concrete cavern). I've read that the last couple of shows there were not as bad 'cause of tech advances in concert sound design & they actually put huge sound absortion curtains etc to try & muffle some of the echo.... AC/DC played there a couple of times '09 + '15, I did'nt go.

Anyways, maybe you're right, maybe U2 &/or Evenko just don't want to do a U2 show there... good enough for AC/DC's sound (and One Direction lolll) but not U2

And yeah 360 sound outside at Hyppodrome was awesome, people could hear the sound clearly for miles!!

U2 don't hate Montreal's Olympic Stadium, in fact it is well known that it is at that stadium that U2 realised they are good enough to do stadiums, back in the '80's. They have done Joshua Tree 87, Zoo TV and POP Mart at that stadium. 

The reason they did not go to the stadium in 2011 was mainly the size of the 360 Claw-stage, specifically the center spire that would not fit in the now roof covered stadium. They were other technical issues as well, but it was mostly the spire not fitting under the stadium roof, it was too complicated from an engineering standpoint to lower the spire by shortening the legs of the claw.

They could easily play the Olympic Stadium for JTT 2017.

 

Hey Surrender, you mean you can't see it on regular HBO (you got a free month right?) before the 22nd unless you do it "on demand" ? You pay xtra/on demand fee for that?? 

I get HBO On Demand free also for 30 days.  This worked out perfect cause we have HBO until January 6th.  I believe if you pay for HBO you get On Demand and HBO Go, and whatever else they have included in the price.

 

Ah, Good on 'ya Surrenders   .... you don't have a dvr?? would make a great Xmas gift from one of your family/friends... hint hint... & that gives you time to record the concert in glorious HD colour by Jan. 6th!! Merry Xmas & Happy New Year my friend   

Thx Max.... but I'm good w HBO Canada, I recorded it anyway on my dvr in glorious hd colour    ... still want more wide shots though loll ... hopefully the IE concert DVD will be better, I mean just camera views/angles wise... not a big fan of lots of close ups of the Boyz as opposed to nice wide shots of the lighting/screen/crowds for a concert dvd. 

Hey Surrender, you mean you can't see it on regular HBO (you got a free month right?) before the 22nd unless you do it "on demand" ? You pay xtra/on demand fee for that?? 

Hey Phill, just wondering if you saw that Stereophonics concert in a smaller venue than an arena? (U2 in arenas)..... I ask 'cause I have done GA for U2 on 3 tours & seen them in seats as well for those same shows (not good seats but not bad either) (I have done all tours since '83) and I can tell you there is a world of difference between when you are close up to the band, or in mid to far seats... I agree that this tour the atmosphere is more laid back, especially the 1st half of the show because of the order & choice of songs, re. type of songs on SOI etc...... maybe those points have a lot to do with why you feel about them in concert last little while.

Anyways, I think w. the Songs of Experience album & tour it will be quite different, more intense/rock/closer to the older U2 type shows... then again I could be wrong    

 

every one of us are glued to the broadcast... fortunately it can be streamed, so we can discuss it for weeks...

Max, is it streamed on HBO for weeks?

 

HBO Canada schedule, should be same/similar for US:

U2: Innocence + Experience Live In Paris

U2's first HBO concert special, featuring the band on their latest Innocence and Experience tour.

Length: 149 min         

Genre: Music   Year: 2015

Schedule

Tuesday Dec. 8          3:11AM ET / MT

Friday Dec. 11            12:45PM ET / MT

Saturday Dec. 12        12:50AM ET / MT

Saturday Dec. 19        7:10AM ET / MT

Thursday Dec. 24       8:55AM ET / MT

 

 

every one of us are glued to the broadcast... fortunately it can be streamed, so we can discuss it for weeks...

Max, is it streamed on HBO for weeks?

at the very least it will be available during December...

 

At HBO Canada it is on 5-6 times in December (I'm in Montreal)... for some reason can't find the schedule for it on HBO US, but can for Canada... should be very similar as far as upcoming re-broadcasts. 

Very cool w EODM, lots of energy!! 

every one of us are glued to the broadcast... fortunately it can be streamed, so we can discuss it for weeks...

True..... personnaly I prefer more wide shots of the stage/screen/lighting/audience etc..... close ups are good but too many with the Director H. Hamish.... close ups on "tv" are not the same at all as in person/at concert.. I know 'cause I was GA for a couple of tours..... hope if this ends up being the dvd that they change the montage, give us more wide shots!! loll 

P.S. Thx Max for keeping this open... even though looks like I'm the only "One" in here lolll 

Oh yeah, picture quality is awesome... to be expected w an HD broadcast, I 'gotta add it is very clear compared to a non-Blueray dvd 

Ok looks like Max has kept this thread going for the HBO concert... soooo... coments coments?? Half way thru the show, my 1st one would be that Hamish does'nt like enough wide shots, like all his U2 dvd's... just saying ... I realise it's for tv purposes tonight especially.... just saying .. loll ... contest winners on stage now w Meerkat....

Lift-off in 2 minutes!!!!

1st time I listen to a Europe pre-show music track, were all cities these tracks?? Interesting choices... 

 

looks wild that stage set up. 

looks like they could walk out of the screen into the balcony seats.

 

.. current set-up looks like they decided to put stage width wise instead of length wise on arena floor, looks like could it have fit the usual length wise way.... just saying

Suseptable...? To what? Lol I love my age & wouldnt trade it for anything.

 

No not sensitive actually or upset I just think out of all of the comments here yours is set out to intentionally offend, hence the trolling which you are doing. No sense in continuing this conversation. Have a good day.

Do you know what trolling means Shannon? I suggest you look it up.... if you or others take offence to what I wrote, then yes you are easily susceptible & overly sensitive and therefore deserve to feel offended if that's all it takes to get you to calling people "trollers" ... last thing, if I offended the whinners who were whinning about such an unimportant issue as to who "deserves" to get up on stage or not with the band, then so be it .... like I said the 1st time 4 days ago, get a grip!! 

People are entitled to their opinion, like it or not. You are free to disagree but walking in name calling & blindly blaming an entire group of people can be left out of it, especially if you want to be taken seriously. You'll learn this as you get older.

 

This is a forum for discussions of all kind. Important or not...This wasn't important no but I still found the contest silly & unnecessary given they had already picked out who they were going to select. I love the band with all my heart but I still question the motives of those who work for them. I have my reasons. Is it the end of the world, definitely not. Its one minor thing in a lifetime of experiences & feelings which we are free to have and discuss...

oouh, a little susceptible are we Shannon… you call this trolling?! >> "I think it has to do with the U2 fan base getting really old, bunch of Grumpy Old Men & Ladies lollll    << … I'm "walking in name calling & blindly blaming an entire group of people"?!… my oh my, we are a little sensitive, aren't we… for someone who says they are of mature age, that is somewhat surprising…. I could say you are now trolling me   

Anyhoot, don't want to argue w you, as we are both long time U2 fans that love the band, so let's leave it at that my Friend.

p.s. - I was born the same year as Bono & Adam & I first saw the band during the War tour, so you writing "especially if you want to be taken seriously. You'll learn this as you get older" doesn't quite apply… I'll let you do the math as far as my age goes, and yes I'm one of those Old Men or Ladies, but just not Grumpy        

 

 

Agreed. Of course after the events in Paris the whole subject seems insignificant but it doesn't escape the fact that it was a completely unnecessary and silly idea - not sure who thought of it but it wasn't his / her finest hour! The main thing is that, hopefully, everyone who was heading to Paris made it back safely - regardless of whether I or anyone else thinks they should be there. 

 

Shannon, Mark, you saying what I wrote is trolling? If so, enlighten me as to why you would label my comments trolling? If not, ok, my bad.... I agree w you Mark about the supposed contest not being a good idea... however, so what?? Let's put things in perspective (regardless pre/post Paris), this a great band, putting out mostly great albums, giving great concerts, that's pretty much it, in the grand scheme of things... Oh yeah, they are also very charitable & great spokespeople/initiators of getting things done regarding fighting world poverty.... and they make us feel good thru their music & actions.

I have no issue w the fans who  partook in the contest & sincerely wanted to be picked, it is a contest after all, but the other fans whinning about how "it was fixed"... come'on, really? The way some people wrote about this, they really think that this is a major issue regarding the band & their tour?? (among other petty issues being whinned about since the start of this tour) Like I said, talk about a 1st World problem! I guess it's the world we live in now, everybody has an opinion that is "important", broadcast, and should be given all the attention they believe it merits, regardless of how "unimportant" it is in factual terms.  I hope these fans put as much thought & effort into actual important life issues.

Anyway, that's my "opinion" on how some fans go just a little overboard with an issue that really should not even be one, in the grand scheme of this tour, to which I feel we are lucky to still have the Boyz doing their thing & taking it on the road for us to enjoy..... and yes I realize this post is ironic considering I am whinning about other people whinning lolll.... nuff' said      

 

All seems pretty petty now doesn't it

 

Yeah, the bickering that went on over this whole thing does seem a bit petty now, in retrospect. However we may have felt about the idea of dividing fans and making them compete against one another for a once-in-a-lifetime shot of being immortalized on film with the band, recent events really re-emphasize just how incredibly lucky we are that they do this at all. Pulling a fan up on stage is risky even when we're NOT taking potential security issues into account. So many things could go wrong up there... The fan could freeze and spoil the momentum, could throw up all over the stage, could fall off the stage, could slip from Bono's fingers whilst being spun about, and so on. The fact that U2 have brought so many different people up to interact with them so consistently on this tour, despite the myriad possible risks involved, speaks not only to their generosity, but to their fearlessness, too. If additional legs are added to this tour (fingers crossed for that!), I hope they keep it up. It is such an honour and a privilege to share the stage with them.

 

Hey Folks, I would have wrote what i did, about people getting a grip, before the Paris tragedy, I just happened to fall on this topic after.... I had'nt been checking out the Zoo much lately, if I had before Friday I would have wrote the same thing.... I can't believe people whinning so much about something like that... talk about a 1st world problem ... I think it has to do with the U2 fan base getting really old, bunch of Grumpy Old Men & Ladies lollll .... I don't see people doing that ''back in the day'' of their 20's & early 30's .... then again, I could be wrong, it's been known to happen   Cheers!!