Koke-dera

Many thank yous to the band & crew - a special one. Thank you.

So, let's start in on the bad - the pre-show GA line controversy for the moment. The band wrote a song about it, you know the one with the line "just gimme what I want and no one gets hurt" (shouldn't say that as some will feel honored) - because that's what it comes down to, people proclaiming the given rules void and naming themselves proclaimers of new rules, in secret, and threatening violence or its approach if their rule isn't adhered to (before the bulk of the crowd shows up of course), and security and the venue both bow when it's clear the numbers are greater than they could prevent violence from. The reality is the venue & security should refuse to pay any attention to the false line, and the question remains open whether there's any recourse here for the bulk of the fans whose only notice is of the original venue announced rules: perhaps a suit for fraud against the perpetrators of the line? Tricky, but possible. Pre-emptive strike by the venue? distributing #s by purchased group of tickets a week prior to the show? Maybe. Just a few more comments in the many out there about this now, though it isn't the first go 'round for this controversy either, and without value in it for the venue or security, the argument turns but changes do not come. What fuels it mostly does seem to be the need for hierarchy among fans - the focus on numbers, objects, contacts, etc. as of central value. Not the art itself of course, not the songs themselves, just how I stand in the reflected light from the art, that belief in a position owed or again self-proclaimed - hate to say it, but the band is not your mirror, you look just the same Then again, some just want position so they can make money. And all this exists in the ever present lip-smacking thunder of the ass kissing going on toward the band, toward moderators, toward site owners in the vie for position, or at least to hide the behind the scenes pettiness. Ah, why do I persist, resist, etc. in this circus? Not because I'm a woman. I'm not. For this tour, yes, purely for nostalgia, to sing along to songs with a couple people whose rooms I used to hang out in 30 years ago and we'd talk about the album and the tour (the original one) while it was still ongoing.

But another Lumineers picture to distract you from any controversy...

I'll say some things later. Keep meaning to get back here, but not finding the time. I'll open with a pic of the Lumineers - found them pretty enjoyable, very glad to have seen them.

On 6/7/2017 at 11:30 AM, bigwave said:

I think now all you need to do is add a twitter / instagram link into a post KD and it should show up the original post.. can you give that a go to check it works for all?

Like this?:

 

8 hours ago, bigwave said:

 

Need to follow that up with his later comment on soundcheck Mr. Wave - may result in some speculation.

 

Nice job - curated is so much better than twitter box ticking on songs & phrases, parroting bono, and attempts at notoriety (her vanity) mainly via crowdsourcing. Honestly bored with the bulk of twitter coverage. But that's just me.

1 hour ago, allyson2008 said:

For those of you who were wondering about the VIP gift, I found this on Twitter:

 

Yes, check their feed out, additional pics of it as well.

 

I'm ready for what's next beyond the tour - let's get 'em through SOE and SOA and then, post-ascent, on to a "Life on Mars" album of music for the red planet's first colonists (whenever that happens) based on Bowie, Kim Stanley Robinson, Yuri Gargarin, Elon Musk, Neil Armstrong, and B & E's time with NASA A song suite to the future

From physiological psychology side of things there's an interesting bit of arousal state transference going on there, which is cheaper than conventional marketing. Anyway, I'll be back to comment on this further (though not that specific point).

a lot of people trying with code alreay used.

shame on them.

 

I have one valid subscribe code and I'm unable to get one.

 

Everyone I've seen post they got tickets supposedly had used their codes already.

Merci. I think I had the easy job on this one though - the people chasing down the books is what I'm thankful for. 

And the piece on the Psalms confetti is now up - http://www.u2wanderer.org/news/2015/08/09/you-got-my-head-filled-with-psalms-you-got-my-shoelaces-undone/

 

Left out the "Pilgrim" Psalm so Miracle lovers may want to note its presence.

 

Anyway, all these articles have been building toward a wrap with the next one - Psalm 1925 (it's not a typo for an actual Psalm, that is the title of the next article), which hopefully we'll have done soon, and then update our source info etc.

 

Big thanks to all who've helped, and to Aaron for putting the stuff up & putting up with me.

 

And now this bit from Willie Williams in the livedesign interview:

 

"LD: Are there any special effects?

WW: None, except for haze, of course. Oh, and eight confetti machines that shower the audience with pages from Ulysses, Lord of the Flies, The Psalms, and Alice in Wonderland. Bono said to me one day, “When they fire-bombed the library in Sarajevo, pages from books rained down on the city for days. Words, poems, sentences, all mixed up, fell into people’s hands. Do you think we could recreate that?”"

 

Except, no one has posted pages from Ulyssess or Lord of the Flies. Both have been ripped and thrown at shows though.

 

I think maybe Willie was talking about original ideas they had for the books, and is mixing together the debris and actual books thrown.

 

 

I should have responded to this line before - I think that's true, or he's just generally broadening the ideas with one we aren't likely to touch on without a revelation in interviews. Generally being conclusory isn't your friend with things like this as they can draw from and meld multiple sources, so does the Sarajevo image blot out the Dublin image - maybe in the minds of some, but in general, probably not.

u2jerry - yes, the diehards, they are still around, but many have families and other obligations. Some touched base even if they couldn't be there, and some tried but failed to get workarounds in place to be there - I was lined up for 5 and made 2. The world has changed, but I saw many faces of diehards I know and those I don't, though certainly not as many as you'd see in a stadium gig. The new generation of diehards (post-2000) are fairly visible as well given their active web presence. That said, getting the break through on the singing along was tough, at moments I thought it was getting near acceptable levels, and I screamed my lungs out at my 2nd show at one point in an effort to get people to go louder. I'll get my disjointed bits of reviews up soon.

I love the variation a guest adds to a song. I'd love to see Gavin and Guggi come out to play on Cedarwood. Yes, Lykke Li on Troubles - the last time they played it was beautiful. How about Will Sergeant playing guitar on Raised by Wolves and Ian McCullough dueting as Judas on Until the End, to bury an old hatchet, hatchet in hand. Aloe Blacc maybe. Mick Jones. Paul Simonon. Hooky, if that doesn't upset the New Order politics. Wolf Alice. John Lydon on Electric Co. - woo, he could turn that song nasty and inside out. Roger Waters and/or Bob Geldoff dueting on Iris. I'd love to see Julian Lennon take on the piano for Every Breaking Wave or add some vocals. How about Nile Rodgers bringing some funk to Mysterious Ways. Jim Kerr. Sting. I'd love to see Van Morrison of Cyprus Avenue move from snippet to present and scatting during Bad or bringing the Sam Cooke to Still Haven't Found. Whoever's willing to take a chance - we've had some pretty great audience members playing along too.

 

And now this bit from Willie Williams in the livedesign interview:

 

"LD: Are there any special effects?

WW: None, except for haze, of course. Oh, and eight confetti machines that shower the audience with pages from Ulysses, Lord of the Flies, The Psalms, and Alice in Wonderland. Bono said to me one day, “When they fire-bombed the library in Sarajevo, pages from books rained down on the city for days. Words, poems, sentences, all mixed up, fell into people’s hands. Do you think we could recreate that?”"

 

Except, no one has posted pages from Ulyssess or Lord of the Flies. Both have been ripped and thrown at shows though.

 

I think maybe Willie was talking about original ideas they had for the books, and is mixing together the debris and actual books thrown. I definitely saw Lord of the Flies on the catwalk in front of me, and The Screwtape Letters (C. S. Lewis) was the other one nearby. Someone else told me Milton's Paradise Lost was one of them. As close as I was to the stack on the E-stage one night, I cold not get a clear picture, but did see Bono pick up a Poems collection--I'll see if I can figure out which one it was. There was one book that was pretty large, not thick but L & W dimension-wise it was very much like a textbook. He didn't throw all of them off the E-stage. The crew ended up putting a few of them underneath. I had one in my hands that security guy picked up from behind the rail, but another fan from behind grabbed it from above and out of my hand--couldn't even see the title it happened so quickly. I definitely got pages from Alice, Dante's Paradisio, & Psalms.

 

It's certainly an amazingly jarring effect, and I would have loved to be a part of the curating of this bit of the tour! As for reasons, I remember reading that quote above before too, but also didn't the car bombing in Raised by Wolves happen not too long after school got out? Bono said that he usually would have been in that area after school, but went elsewhere instead that day. A lot of those books are school books.

 

 

Which show? & Do you have pictures? We are giving credit at u2wanderer.org for anyone that helps in the "curating" in the main articles, though give us some time as updating and trying to put out new stuff takes a bit of it. And the forums here and there are open for discussion about these things wherever you want to take it. 

 

See here: http://t.co/mXwBj6YMzR

2015-07-18 and I beLIEve 2015-07-19 as well:

 

Everything You Know is Wrong
Divide
Kill
Squabble
Autobahn
Mafia
Defect
Baby
Cult
Bitch
Autopsy
Bitch
Autopsy
Job
Smack
Lies
Car
Sugar
Woof
Shame
The
Future
Is
A
Fantasy
Wife
Victim
Food
War
The
Media
The
Antichrist
Bloody
Kids
Bloody
Kids
Whore
Chaos
Distortion
Wildebeest
Taxi
Orgasm
Crude
Nazi
Everyone
Is
A
Racist
Except
You
Friendly
Fire
Friendly
Fire
I
Want
Everything
Death
Is
Inevitable
Fish
Colour
Abba      <-- reversed 1st B
Weasel
Marriage
Tofu
Vacuum
Swindle
Crack
Mundo
Gents     <--letters are incomplete
Spit      <--letters are incomplete, this is a guess
Chianti
Bible
Data
Chicken
Decor
Fags
Soccer
Beano
Just
Do
Me
Superficiality
Tease
Dump
Alien
Father
Monster
Baggage
Superficiality is God
Avoid Conflict
Ignorance is Bliss
Cry More Often
Bark
Weight
Bunker
Citizen
Make Friends
It's the Real Thing
Consume Later
Do Not Accept What You Cannot Change
Stop
Bondage
Hammer
Luxury
Reconstruction
Cancer
Cancer
Futon
Arsenal
Urge
Earth
Survive
Boom
You'll
Never
Walk
Alone
Ciao
Croissant
Eeny
Meeny
Miney
Mo
What
Did
The
First
Punk
Girl
Wear
To
Your
School?
Fear
Ultimately
Japan
Crispy
Panzer
Blockade
Virtual
Do
You
Believe
Me?
Je
Ne
Regret
Rien
Crepe
Glockenspiel
Cola
Amour
Pussy
Gun
Want
To
Charge
It
You
Are
A
Victim
Of
Your
Parents
Your
Environment
Your
TV
Your
Hatred
Your
Apathy
Concern
Your
Lost
You
Are
A
Victim
Of
Your
Self
Faust
Snot
Kiss
Milton
Keynes
Hospital
Panic
Argy
Bargy
Zig
Zag
Spasm
Valve
King
Missile
Candy
Napalm
Flower
Attitude
Survive
Disease
Bear
Soul
Memory
Shatter
Instant
Attack
Illusion
Memory
Be Gentle With Me
This Is Not A Rehearsal
Talk to Strangers
Enjoy the Surface
Everything You Know is Wrong
Debt
Doubt
Hype
Hope
Fake
Wear
A
Condom
Nervous
Peace
Suicide
Damage
Rendition
Magic
Lust
Indulge
Left
Right
We
Are
All
A
Part
Of
The
Malaise
Clouds
Ignore
Speed
Recycle
Destiny
Tutti
Frutti
Tutti
Frutti
Pork
Omen
Blind
UFO
Sullen
Boy
Omen
Drug
My Pleasure
High
Mutant
Awful
Jesus Wept
Head
Ache
Bow
Wow
Topsy
Turvy
Voulez
Vous
Crush
Sicken
Arm
The
Unemployed
911
Riot
Feed
On
The
Present
Zoo
Tick
Tock
Riff
Raff
Let
Me
Hear
You
Say
Yeah
Walk
Don't Walk
Awkward
Contradiction
Is
Balance
Last
Chance
Nitty
Gritty
Mumbo
Jumbo
Free
Delivery
Free
Market
Free
Gift
Free
Country
Free
Nelson Mandela <-- on what would have been his 97th birthday
Sugar
Free
Free
Good
Bye
Cruel
World
Mock
The
Devil
And
He
Will
Flee
From
Thee
Agrovation
You
And
Whose
Army?
POW
Wow
Higgeldy
Piggeldy
You
Have
The
Right
To
Remain
Silent
Ooh La La
You
Have
The
Right
To
Remain
Silent
Etc.
Ambition Bites the Nails of Success
It Could Never Happen Here
Taste Is the Enemy of Art
Believe Everything
Watch More TV
Believe
Believe   <--- Lie in red
Lie       <--- in red
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
Stop   <--- in red
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
Stop     <-- in red
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
Stop    <-- in red
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
TV
I
Love
You
Stop    <-- in red
Celebrity
Is
A
Job
Good
Evening
Rekjavic
Green
Soul
The
Less
Said
The
Better
Ping
Pong
Dilly
Dally
Are
You
Experienced?
Lazy
Entitlement
Rancid
Novel
Culture
Eradicate
Less
Is
More
Bubble
Xylophone
Pitter
Patter
Hoi
Paloi
Trellis
Punish
Liberal
Goat
Cheese
Prophesy
Alliance
Invention
Outside
Embrace
Journey
Force
Technology
Worship
Fruit
Cake
Hip
Hop
Smart
Phone
Dead
Heat
Demonstrate
Competing
Truths
Morphine
Muddle
Silly
Thaw
Serve
Protein
Remarkable
Itsy
Bitsy
Big
Deal
Drugs
Are
Good
Drugs
Are
Good
Austerity
Soda
Obsequious
Tangible
Sniper
Bait
Mob
Enormous
Body
Count
Average
Joe
Psychedelic
Passenger
Deadpan
Elastic
Ceaseless
Minor
Rigid
Hysteria
Specialist
Partnet
Diamond
Sprout
Observation
Tepid
Mish
Mash
Hard
Luck
Thumb
Voice
Silver
Harbour
What
A
Marvelous
Human
Being
You
Turned
Out
To
Be
Let's
Not
Go
There
Nobody
Move
And
Nobody
Gets
Hurt
Good
It's
Your
World
You
Can
Change
It
Change
It
Change
It
Change It
I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing
Guilt Is Not Of God
Tomorrow Belongs to Me
Call Your Mother
Evolution is Over
Silence = Death
Rock and Roll Is Entertainment
Service Not Included
Watch More TV

Still some minor edits to make, but the list of books is now up: http://u2wanderer.org/news/2015/07/18/read-by-wolves/

Yes, there really isn't a break / time to leave. And the text changed for New York 1 - what is above is Boston 4 only so far.

Fly text is different since Boston they did You are all a part of the malaise (or whatever it was), etc.

Kept the energy up for sure. This is posted more formally on u2wanderer.org now.

Tim Neufeld's video of the intermission is here if you want to watch more tv:

 

Fly (Gavin remix)

 

Text. Someone doublecheck me on this - if the font changes I stated the word again:

 

Everything You Know Is Wrong

Squabble

Fix

Autobahn

Mafia

Woof

Sugar

Kill

Baby

Cult

Smack

Bitch

Autopsy

Job

Lies

Car

The

Future

Is

A

Fantasy

Wife

Victim

Rape

Food

Sexy

War

The

Media

Is

The

Bloody

Kids

Trash

Everyone

Is

A

Racist

Except

You

Bomb

Whore

Ultimately

Japan

Chaos

I

Want

Everything

Death

Is

Inevitable

Frenzy

Fish

Colour

Cult

ABBA                                                                          <-- first "B" is reversed

Weasel

Marriage

Tofu

Vacuum

Swindle

Crack

Mondo

Gents

Spit

Decor

Fags

Woolworths

Chianti

Just

Do

Me

I

Want

Everything

Death

Is

Inevitable

Do

You

Believe

Me

You

Are

A

Victim

Of

Your

Parents

Environment

Your

TV

Your

Hatred

Your

Apathy

You

Are

A

Of

Your

Self

Faust

Snot

Kiss

Milton

Keynes

Spasm

Valve

King

Missile

Tease

Dump

Alien

Taxi

Orgasm

Crude

Nazi

Bird

Lager

Is

This

All

We

Get?

Massive

Bus

Stop

Bondage

Hammer

Futon

You’ll

Never

Walk

Alone

You’ll

Never

Walk

Alone

Ghetto

Baby

Fear

Secret

Boom

Earth

Zero

Urge

Junk

Survive

What

Did

The

First

Punk

Rock

Girl

Wear

To

Your

School?

Fear

Amour

A Secret Is Something

You Tell

One Other Person

Ausfahrt

Cola

Amour

Plain

Pour

Regret

Rien

Jeur

Sans

Radioactivo

Croissant

Clockenspiel

Crepe

Panzer

Donner

Und

Blitzen

Una

Paloma

Blanca

Y

Viva

Espana

Docker

Paddy

Jack

The

Lad

Hell

Cola

Amour

Ca

Pour

Fil Rouge

Jeur

Sans

Frontiers

Je

Ne

Regret

Rien

Ole

Hole

Work

Is

Be Gentle With Me

This Is Not a Rehearsal

Talk to Strangers

Enjoy the Surface

Media

Bloody

Kids

You

Have

The

Right

To

Remain

Silent

Ooh La La

Etc.

Me

Have

Have

The

Right

To

Remain

Silent

Hear

You

Say

Yeah

Walk

Don’t Walk

Pizza

Free

Delivery

Market

Free

Gift

Free

Country

Free

Sugar

Free

Admission

Free

Pork

Omen

Blind

UFO

Blind

Pig

Scratch

Bonk

Cop

Violence

Waste

Sex

God

Pop

Zero

Die

Culture

Junk

Spit

Brain

Curse

Bark

Let

Me

Hear

You

Say

Yeah

Walk

Market

Free

Gift

Free

Country

Free

Sugar

Free

Admission

Free

Born

Free

Freedom

Is

Slaverty

Riot

Facist

Pig

Scratch

Bonk

Cop

Violate

Hello Cruel World

Waste

Sex

God

Pop

Gaudy

Weekend

Hooker

That’s Entertainment

Free

Admission

Born

Free

Freedom

Riot

Facist

Pig

Bonk

Cop

Violence

Waste

Pop

My Pleasure

Weekend

Hooker

Mondo

Jesus Wept

Jelly

Cardboard

Sullen

War

Raw

Yob

Boy

Drug

High

Head

Voulez Vous

Six

Sex

Sox

Sax

Bust

Sux

999

666

911

Emergency

Walt Disney

Ambition Bites the Nails of Success

It Could Never Happen Here

Taste Is the Enemy of Art

Believe Everything

Watch More TV

BELIEVE

BELIEVE

    LIE

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

Stop

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

Stop

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

I

Love

You

TV

Stop

Stop

Gol!

Manipulation is Art

You Are Not Immune

Every Artist Is a Cannibal

Celebrity is a Job

Death is a Career Move

Zooropa

Use

USA

Feed on the Present

Past

Mock the Devil and He Will Flee From Thee

Noun

Si

Nein

Oui

Rebellion Is Packaged

Nobody

Move

And

Nobody

Gets

Hurt

Plutonium

Deterrent

Chernobyl

Proliferate

Krypton

Warhead

Half-Life

Pulse

Nuclear

Dustbin

Reproaches

Contaminate

Child

Mutant

Windscale

Atomic

Religion is a Club

Whore

Reject Your Weekness

Chaos

Contradiction is Balance

Moriarty

Fairnie

Braviner

John

Monica

Ben

Chris

Smasher

Brandon

Luke

Celler

Damian

Jake

Ethan

Davis

Hugh

Jeff

Kes

A Friend is Someone Who lets You Help

A Liar Won’t Believe Anyone Else

Bollix

Art is Manipulation

I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing

Guilt Is Not of God

Tomorrow Belongs to Me

Call Your Mother

Overload

Evolution is Over

Silence = Death

Rock and Roll is Entertainment

Service Not Included

The

Future

Is

A

Fantasy

Jean

De

Florette

Home

Sweet

Home

Power

Fame

What

A

Marvelous

Human

Being

You

Turned Out

To

Be

Prague

Berlin

Sarajevo

Brazil

C.I.S.

Ici

FBI

Fas

Happy Xmas

Blue

Green

Yellow

Black

Pink

Red

ABC

KLM

DAT

AA

AAA

HMV

Money

Marriage

Beg

Poet

Drugs

Are

Good

Gaudy

It’s All Very Realistic

Good Evening Reykjavik

Cum                                                                                             <-- mark on the wall behind text makes this look like "Gum"

Star

It’s

Your

World

You

Can

Change

It

Watch More TV

I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing

Guilt is not of God

Tomorrow Belongs to Me

Call Your Mother

Evolution is Over

Silence = Death

Rock and Roll is Entertainment

Service Not Included

Watch More TV

Yes.

u2wanderer.org - Aaron has been keeping track. I *think* they played all of Echo & the Bunnymen's Crocodiles album last night before the mix started, but really could only hear well enough to make out "Do It Clean."