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Except everyone with a bit of a clue about how IP.Board works can just look it up.... :-P

I think the biggest issue is that from an automated system point of view, it's very hard to tell who is a legit buyer and who isn't. These days there is just plain luck involved as well. It's why I rarely go to see the "bigger" bands anymore. As for battling it, I just got my tickets for Kraftwerk @ Paradiso. Limited to 2 per transaction, these are all assigned to name (you have to give the names of the people you are going with when buying). They don't get sent out until a week before the concert and are non transferable. On the day itself, you have to show valid ID (no copies) to exchange the ticket for a wristband. So it can be done. But there's a bit of a difference in capacity, and changing ID for a bigger venue like Ziggo may be very difficult.

Presale for Amsterdam started at 10. The 33 euro tickets weren't stands, but seats in unpopular corners. GA were in the upper 70s (can't remember exactly) and RedZone were multiple times that. So other than the small alotment of 33 euro tickets, and the GAs, there simply weren't any other tickets below 100. For reference, the floor space in Ziggo holds about 6500 people in a regular setting. With the stage set up the way it is, this will be less. So that's maybe a max of 6000 GA tickets per show and a lot of those were already sold in presale. ArenA holds about 15k GA. Just for reference, the 360 shows (2x15k = 30k) sold out within minutes. It's pretty much just a case of demand outweighing supply. And just because tickets are marketed at 3 times their value on marktplaats doesn't actually mean they sell for these amounts. I can guarantee you you'll be able to pick up tickets for a more reasonable amount closer to the date (pro tip. only do in-person trading when dealing with marktplaats people). I'm sorry you didn't get through. For what it's worth, neither did I, nor did any of my U2-ey friends. That you even managed to get through for 179 tickets is actually a bit of a miracle. Some more tips for next time: Trying to get 4 tickets is going to decrease your chances of getting tickets at all, because it will try to get 4 seats in a row. If you want to bring your boyfriends/sisters/mothers/daughters/friends, it is probably a good idea to make them sign up too, so they can get a shot at presales too. There was plenty time between the announcement of the first shows and the second shows to do so, which I personally definitely would have done if I already missed out at the first public sales. Keep an eye on marktplaats, don't buy from people who have only been on there for a very short time. Don't buy from people who refuse to meet in person, or ask for payment up front.

If you get the suite at the Clarence... about 20-30 :-P

We don't have any CCE restrictions here, but I did talk to Ticketmaster about something (changing e-tickets for hardcopies) and they pretty much said they are forbidden from making changes to the system as per U2.

Who has $300 to spend on concert tickets these days?

Sept 12 seems like golddust... I have pretty much any night to trade for Sept 12 if anyone is willing...

How can you be sure? Because most of the euro gigs don't have the creditcard requirement. Didn't even pay with CC. We should be allowed to find people to swap with on here, you know, amongst fans @ fair prices.

In most of Europe this isn't a thing.

Why? People have always done this and it was also at own risk anyway? By facilitating it you just ensure people are less likely to get ripped off. I'd rather swap ticket for ticket with no money exchanged, or at sell face value to another fan than having to resort to ebay/craigslist type third parties. Again trying too hard to crack down on "normal" fans trying to have a good time, rather than actually addressing the real problem... the screwing of fans by selling tickets 3x the regular price by "legitimate" resellers. The only thing this achieves is that people resort to sites like ebay and stubhub.

*jealous!* was that for the dvd for 'reaLliTY' ? Think it ended up as an accompanying cd for that DVD and it was the show that got broadcast to cinemas all across the world (which were fan events in themselves). It was pretty awesome stuff. Pretty revolutionary at the time too (2003). Lots of bands seem to be doing similar things. Small venue, lottery based.

The only thing left at the Dandelion market is a shopping mall mate... But yeah, warmup shows. Don't typically don't travel, cause when you have to haul ass halfway across the world, it costs money, which makes it hard to make it a freebie. TBH, I wouldn't even be worried about it being free. Lottery to be able to buy tickets would work as well, and it'd cover some of the cost of actually setting this up (though free is nicer, of course) I seem to remember B used to invite loitering fans in to have a listen to sound checks and warmups.

Warmup gigs free for lottery winning members sounds good... Bowie used to do those too

Oh sorry, didn't realise something that's readily available was a secret :-P

Don't live there, but I'd be fine with that too