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  1. When my friends and I attended MSG / NY during Elevation, we were at a pub and an organized fan event right across from the venue. They were playing LIVE AT SLANE CASTLE  and the place was electric.

     

    What I would urge from the cheap seats since I don't live anywhere near Phoenix ( so apologies but can't help organize this one ) is that 1 venue be arranged early enough to really get it out there that it is a primary place to be. Have U2 concerts on the flat screens and create an atmopshere to remember.

     

    I'll be alone and thus really hoping to hang with fans, esp those who will make it into the GA with me.

     

    Can't wait. Cheers, Greg

  2. Would greatly appreciate being kept in the loop if something comes together for a pre concert get together.

     

    I'll be in L.V. for a running event that morning of the first show and am getting into PHX mid afternoon. I may have an extra GA as well and can confirm that end of April.

  3. I suspect that for everyone who loves CCE, once they are in a position where an issue arises and they can not give, sell  of otherwise make use of their tickets, they might see it a bit differently.

     

    Maybe not....maybe some simply like throwing away money and having all their options limited.

     

    To me, the issue remains that the reduction of customer options is not reducing scalping but is enhancing TM's bottom line.

  4. Caveat :

     

    I think sometimes I and perhaps many of us, see U2.COM as actually having some pull on issues like this when in reality they are likely caught by surprise as much as we are. They are front lines so ultimately have to deal with our rants. So, I can easily see how U2.COM personalities would not have any real idea as to Management 's intentions, discussions with ticket seller's.

     

    In past years during U2 tours we have all witnessed how scalpers do change a tour environment and hold many of us hostage if you will. But at the same time, this is not re-inventing the wheel. U2 Management has been down this road before as have the ticket outlets. The resulting policy with unmovable CCE denies real fans gift, social and timing options in order to prevent manipulation from secondary seller's that are not the ticket outlets themselves.

     

    So, I buy in to the idea written by Moderators here that they are trying to figure out a solution. I hope they can. I see them as being caught off guard by U2 Management's decisions on this as much as we have been.

  5. It's odd but just got an email from guest services at AXS stating it is a U2 Management decision to do CCE for this event and not their in house decision. Myron at AXS is basically saying that this option is deferred to the talent.

     

    U2.COM on the other hand seems to be suggesting they are trying to figure out a solution.

     

    I tend to believe U2.COM here, but it is curious at minimum.

  6. Mike...it is not just how TM benefits, but more importantly to me anyway, how consumers don't.

     

    Hand in hand TM policy at reducing opportunistic scalpers is being replaced with TM virtually scalping themselves by other names. re-sales, Plat seats( where they jack up the price and suggest the secondary benefit to getting a seat at usually well above face value is " bragging rights with your friends".)

     

    I think TM Management might brag about how gullible people are...to a point, and hopefully there is a push back.

     

    But more importantly, it is how consumers...I don't want to say rights per se, but options are reduced so considerably with CCE.

     

    Personal case in point on the issue of CCE...not TM in this case but same policy. I live in Toronto and my Niece and her husband - London. I wanted to provide them a nice Christmas surprise of a couple U2 tickets. I knew in advance their CCE requirement and called to see if there was away to make this work. They stated someone would email on the issue.

     

    They did. Twice. In both cases shut the door. It was obvious I was not a scalper. It is simply nonsensical

     

    It is about them having a firm grip on all aspects of the industry to increase the bottom line even at the expense of their customers and customer conveniences. I just think they need to be called out and from your last post, you do as well overall. Sounds better to me to work on that over a semantics debate.

     

    All the best....see you out there !

     

    Greg

  7. Ticketmaster and the like are not doing this to protect us. It actually reduces our options significantly. But what it does is further allows them to broker there own tickets and increase prices...basically scalp, with not quite as much outside competition. The Platinum seats are a prime example. As are the 'sell back' options at many venues in which TM receives a commission.

     

    If they want to protect us, why would they allow anyone to buy and then immediately list to resell on their own TM site ?

     

    It's all very disingenuous. Meanwhile, I have to figure out a way to get tickets as a Christmas gift to a relative without their needing to use my credit card to get in. How bizarre is that ?

  8. It would be interesting, to me anyway (!) if there was a palatable difference in tempo, tone and excitement at the first set of show dates over any newly posted show dates. The vast majority of die hard fans would have bought for the first set and even though many will attend the secondary group of shows, I just wonder...mostly because I have an hour to kill during lunch (!) if one was able to measure this, if it would be noticeable.

     

    Thoughts ?

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